Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 10:04:13 GMT -6
This is an interesting story. Particularly as we watch the politicians fall all over themselves to back stab and double cross everyone in sight to work with Iran (including the Iranians themselves....to hear them describe it from their side). Once an enemy, and for damn good reason, the Iranian national we have a 1/2 step from the United States President as one of his chief advisers, seems to have worked overtime to re-create the public perception. Iran is now being held up as if nothing bad ever happened and they were meant to be our best friends.
Now...PERSONALLY? I favor Iran these days, but not in any American relationship. Iran represents the underdog by orders of magnitude. They lead the last of the Shia against a world full of Sunni who would happily see them butchered to a person. The Sunni/Shia war 'within a war' that actually predates and DEFINES the whole thing over there, is downplayed. Western media often chooses to ignore the largest factor these people are killing each other over. Nationalism is important, but Faith is worth killing or dying for all day long. I favor Iran in that this is THEIR neighborhood. Not ours. This is THEIR long term headache to live with. It isn't ours. If we had trouble on the Canadian or Mexican borders...would we react well to nations across the world telling us how it was going to be for responding? lol.... That is a purely rhetorical question, of course. We'd attack THEM before listening to advice delivered that way.
Iran has now openly appeared in Iraq, it seems. It is probably about time the thinly covered rumors come out into the open to be acknowledged.
A rare victory! Woo Hoo! Something to celebrate in a situation with almost nothing positive happening right now. Iraq pushed the ISIS killers back...or did they?
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Ahhh..So THAT is how crushing defeat after cowardly running defeat becomes victory by force. Iraqis are shoved to the side so professional fighters can step in and handle business. We once had people capable of doing that too.....but we broke all that with 10 years of pointless, bloody war. Much as Iran itself was in 1990, after it's decade fighting Iraq the first time.
I believe America has come to have the Midas Touch .... in reverse. What we touch right now doesn't turn to gold, as the stories describe. Oh no... What we touch turns to dog crap on a summer day. Perhaps the best approach is *NO* approach at all for now? What we touch under Obama, Kerry and Hagel seems to....get worse. Rarely, if ever, better. That region has been so badly torn apart by war, and for what really amounts to over 60 years now, its time the West stop "helping". Our "help" carries too high a body count without anything accomplished.
So...to utter words I never thought I'd hear myself say? GO IRAN! ! ! ...(just go in a direction away from us...please :) )
Now...PERSONALLY? I favor Iran these days, but not in any American relationship. Iran represents the underdog by orders of magnitude. They lead the last of the Shia against a world full of Sunni who would happily see them butchered to a person. The Sunni/Shia war 'within a war' that actually predates and DEFINES the whole thing over there, is downplayed. Western media often chooses to ignore the largest factor these people are killing each other over. Nationalism is important, but Faith is worth killing or dying for all day long. I favor Iran in that this is THEIR neighborhood. Not ours. This is THEIR long term headache to live with. It isn't ours. If we had trouble on the Canadian or Mexican borders...would we react well to nations across the world telling us how it was going to be for responding? lol.... That is a purely rhetorical question, of course. We'd attack THEM before listening to advice delivered that way.
Iran has now openly appeared in Iraq, it seems. It is probably about time the thinly covered rumors come out into the open to be acknowledged.
BAGHDAD (AP) — When Islamic State militants retreated from the embattled town of Jurf al-Sakher last week, the Iraqi military was quick to flaunt a rare victory. State television showed tanks and Humvees parading through the town and soldiers touring government buildings that the Sunni extremist group had occupied since August.
A rare victory! Woo Hoo! Something to celebrate in a situation with almost nothing positive happening right now. Iraq pushed the ISIS killers back...or did they?
However, photos soon emerged on independent Iraqi news websites revealing a more discreet presence — the Iranian general Ghasem Soleimani, whose name has become synonymous with the handful of victories attributed to Iraqi ground forces. Local commanders said Lebanon's Hezbollah Shiite militia group was also involved.
Ahhh..So THAT is how crushing defeat after cowardly running defeat becomes victory by force. Iraqis are shoved to the side so professional fighters can step in and handle business. We once had people capable of doing that too.....but we broke all that with 10 years of pointless, bloody war. Much as Iran itself was in 1990, after it's decade fighting Iraq the first time.
I believe America has come to have the Midas Touch .... in reverse. What we touch right now doesn't turn to gold, as the stories describe. Oh no... What we touch turns to dog crap on a summer day. Perhaps the best approach is *NO* approach at all for now? What we touch under Obama, Kerry and Hagel seems to....get worse. Rarely, if ever, better. That region has been so badly torn apart by war, and for what really amounts to over 60 years now, its time the West stop "helping". Our "help" carries too high a body count without anything accomplished.
So...to utter words I never thought I'd hear myself say? GO IRAN! ! ! ...(just go in a direction away from us...please :) )
