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bonhommearmonica Sargento Primero Writer Magna Cum Laude I love it when a plan comes together Posts: 1,138	Newstainment: For Sale propagandist Sept 28, 2015 10:20:45 GMT -6 Nugget, dirkgently, and 4 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bonhommearmonica on Sept 28, 2015 10:20:45 GMT -6 Welcome yall Come on in and sit down at yall's compooter screens thought for a day? Sharia law in a nut shell is this islamaphobia? Or how they run the show
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Newstainment: For Sale propagandist Sept 28, 2015 10:35:29 GMT -6 bonhommearmonica, Glencairn, and 3 more like this

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Post by Nugget on Sept 28, 2015 10:35:29 GMT -6

The world is being shamed into believing we're heartless and inhumane for not wanting Islamists in their country on the 'off' ( :rofl:

) chance a 'few' of them may be radical.

'One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel' no longer applies to the human species?

I sit back and watch. I am beyond anger; beyond saddness. I am numb with bewilderment at peoples' willingness to convince thenselves that balck is white.

The writing is on the wall, and I do not feel the least bit of shame for my closed, unwelcoming arms.

Let the children come and learn OUR customs. Let the women come, and take the damn sacks off their heads! Let the men stay and fight to make THEIR country a safe place for their women and children to return to someday, IF they should decide to do so of their own free will.

dirkgently Teniente Posts: 2,048	Newstainment: For Sale propagandist Sept 28, 2015 10:43:07 GMT -6 Nugget, bonhommearmonica, and 4 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by dirkgently on Sept 28, 2015 10:43:07 GMT -6 Can you imagine WW II, fighting the Nazi's and having someone say, "Hey! These folks are just germans!"
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Newstainment: For Sale propagandist Sept 28, 2015 11:30:13 GMT -6 Nugget, dirkgently, and 3 more like this

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Post by Doug on Sept 28, 2015 11:30:13 GMT -6

bonhommearmonica,

Islamaphobia? I don't think so. Phobia means that a individual fears something. I don't fear cowardly moon worshiping pigs. I rather just kill them all and get it over with. THAT'S how disgusted I am now with that supposed cult. And THEY are the ones that cause my hatred of them and their sub-human ways. They're all filth as far as I am concerned and should be turned into fertilizer if they don't convert to another belief.

Turn about is fair play after all. They can become believers of anything they choose other than the cult of islam. Wiccan, Pagan, Buddhist, Christian, Jew, even Atheist, etc, etc...

just as long as they renounce islam.

I wish I could say how I really feel about followers of that cult and how I would deal with them, but T&C forbids going that far... :cussing:

Beware the man who has one gun, he probably knows how to use it.

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Newstainment: For Sale propagandist Sept 28, 2015 11:52:10 GMT -6 dirkgently, bonhommearmonica, and 1 more like this

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Post by omegalogos on Sept 28, 2015 11:52:10 GMT -6

Explanation: Here is some links to various arguments both for and against ...

www.questionsaboutislam.com/women-in-islam/islam-honour-killing.php

Of course, the question arises that if Islam does not sanction or justify "honour killing", then why does it occur? There are many reasons. As stated earlier, in religious societies, religion is invoked by people in order to gain sympathy from others in their society. Therefore, murderers may try to invoke religion to justify their actions. However, this does not mean that their religion approves of their action. It is just a desperate attempt by them to justify their horrible action and to get lenient treatment.

Another reason may be ignorance. Many cases of "honour killing" are carried out by people who are ignorant of Islam. They are not aware of the teachings of Islam, and they confuse local customs and traditions with Islam. It is likely that these people commit their crimes due to anger, outrage, and a perceived loss of honour, and then try to justify their barbarity to themselves and to others using religion.

Perhaps the most common reason for "honour killings" is jealousy, by men who discover that their wife has committed adultery or is having a relationship with another man. In these instances, rage, jealousy and revenge are the real motives for the crime.

These "crimes of passion" are not limited to Muslims only. As an example, in the United States there are approximately 1,200 women killed every year by their husbands or intimate partners. This demonstrates that these crimes occur in every nation and in every society, regardless of religion, race or language. These crimes must be condemned and punished by every society, and especially by Muslim societies, as one of the main aims of Islamic law is the protection of the sanctity of life.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_throwing

Motivation of perpetrators

Personal conflicts in intimate relations and sexual rejection

In parts of South Asia, acid attacks often occur as revenge against a woman who rejects a proposal of marriage or a sexual advance. Such attacks are common in societies where there is a high level of gender inequality and women occupy a subordinate position in relation to men.

Another cause of acid attacks are conflicts related to dowry.
Conflicts over land and property

Conflicts regarding inheritance and other property issues are a cause of acid attacks. People are often assaulted due to land disputes.

Gang violence and rivalry

Acid attacks related to conflicts between criminal gangs occur in many places, ranging from the United Kingdom to Indonesia. The intention of the attacker is often rather to humiliate than to kill the victim. In the UK such attacks are believed to be underreported, and as a result many of them do not show up in official statistics.

Socially, politically and religiously motivated

Attacks against individuals due to their social or political activities, or due to their religious beliefs also occur. These attacks may be targeted against a specific individual, due to their activities, or may be perpetrated against random persons merely because they are part of a social group or community. In Pakistan, female students have had acid thrown in their faces as a punishment for attending school. Acid attacks due to religious conflicts have been reported in Tanzania.

In Europe, Konstantina Kouneva, currently a member of the European Parliament, had acid thrown on her in 2008, in what was described as "the most severe assault on a trade unionist in Greece for 50 years."

www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/05/28/in-pakistan-honor-killings-claim-1000-womens-lives-annually-why-is-this-still-happening/

The reason is rooted in sexual inequality in such countries, where the punishment has survived through some interpretations of sharia, or Islamic law, that say adultery is punishable by stoning. In countries such as Iran, where stonings are legal and widespread, men often have significantly more agency than women. If accused of adultery, they may have the means to either hire lawyers or flee. But those options are frequently closed to women.

The honourable way out of ‘honour killings’ [answering-islam.org]

Why are honour killings still prevalent, especially in Islamic countries and among Muslims, despite the fact that the Quran does not officially condone them? While it is true that tribal cultural ways [3] sometimes take precedent over religious beliefs, it can be argued that the following verses of the Quran indirectly encourage this despicable practice.

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[3] Some people claim that the practice of honour killings originated locally with various Baloch or Pathan tribes in Balochistan or North West Frontier Pakistan. See ‘Honour: crimes, paradigms and violence against women’ by Lynn Welchman and Sarah Hossain, p. 80.

gadiadelman.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=177:acid-attacks-just-a-culture-thing-or-just-islamic&catid=3:islam&Itemid=13

Note: [Gadi Adelman is] "Leading in the movement in the study of counter-terrorism", Dr. Walid Phares, Advisor to the Anti-Terrorism Caucus in the US House of Representatives.

The common denominator here is Islam. “Revenge for refusal of sexual advances, proposals of marriage and demands for dowry.” “Domestic violence”, “dishonor”, “improperly dressed”, “immodestly dressed”, girls “attending school” and “hijab-free women”.

Yes, it’s a ‘cultural thing’ alright; interestingly, the ‘culture’ is Islamic. We really can’t blame them though, after all the Quran teaches in 9 different verses how women are less than a man. The hadith has 14 similar verses.

www.huffingtonpost.com/faheem-younus/acid-attacks-are-not-islam_b_1856007.html?ir=Australia
Dr. Faheem Younus Muslim, professor, doctor and philanthropist "Don't Throw Acid on Islam's Face"

More than 80 percent of all acid attacks are committed against women. Granted, in some cases women have also committed these crimes against other men and/or women, but majority of them were retaliatory. Therefore, men are the common denominator -- not Islam.

A WHO report remarked: "Apart from Bangladesh, acid violence has been reported in Afghanistan, Cambodia, China, India, Jamaica, Nepal, Nigeria, Pakistan, South Africa and Uganda. There have also been a few isolated cases in Europe and North America."

"Acid violence is a worldwide phenomenon," said the Acid Survivor Trust International, the largest European organization helping the victims of acid attacks, "that is not restricted to a particular race, religion or geographical location." According to estimates, more than 1,500 people in 20 countries are victims of acid attacks every year.

Sorry guys, but saying that acid attacks are unique to the Muslim world is like saying that rage, rape, revenge, resentment is -- and men are -- unique to the Muslim world. It doesn't work that way.

Personal Disclosure: To answer the question posed in the OP I would have to say go reread Gadi Adelman's article because he actually quotes the Koran and lays out the laws etc. that expose that Islam doesn't treat women fairly and somewhat condones acid attacks by implication [you reject my unwanted/unwarranted sexual advances where its supposed to be by arranged marriages over there between families with a DOWRY so having money on hand is super important etc. implying I am ugly and disgracing my honor and hence tit for tat acid attack now YOU ARE UGLY etc.].

This is all born out of men ending up with women they don't love and not having access to the women they do love and VICE VERSA for the women also.

This is because marriage is a FAMILY PROFIT DRIVEN BUSINESS [dowries] and arranged for profit not pleasure.

And yet sex should be about pleasure and yes its so important its basically mandated in Islam between husband and wife three times a week minimum and there is all that jazz about MEN getting 72 virgins for sex in the afterlife.

Arranged marriages were a way of a sexual garantee to the men of the future so they didn't go around raping and pillaging for lack of sex and lack of women, when that just led to them running around raping and pillaging for LOVE! :face-palm:

This results in shit sliding ... sliding in all directions!

If I am going to blame generally and collectively it seems the blame lies on PATRIARCHY And GREED For Control Over Money and Sex regardless of its many guises.

To summarize ... $ex $ell'$ and "If I can't have it no one can!"

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Sept 28, 2015 10:43:07 GMT -6 dirkgently said:

Can you imagine WW II, fighting the Nazi's and having someone say, "Hey! These folks are just germans!"

Well, in point of fact? The United States Air Force lost a helluva lot of men in bombers because, unlike other Allied forces, we insisted on accurate and targeted bombing...not carpet bombing cities to break morale.

Sure...the US did a couple specific and deliberate raids where that WAS the whole point, but for those who saved pilots by bombing at night? That was simply standard procedure for lack of ability to be accurate at all.

So.. We did care about Germans as a general civilian population, secondary to total victory in total war. We sure rebuilt and supported them to the last person, from about the day after the war ended, onward.

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Newstainment: For Sale propagandist Sept 28, 2015 14:31:09 GMT -6 dirkgently, bonhommearmonica, and 2 more like this

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Post by Nugget on Sept 28, 2015 14:31:09 GMT -6

If Islam is a religion of peace, then let them FORCE their 'peace' on their own people in their own country.

They certainly don't seem to be bringing any peace with them to the countries they're ~~invading~~ ~~infiltrating~~ migrating to.

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Newstainment: For Sale propagandist Sept 28, 2015 14:42:00 GMT -6 dirkgently, bonhommearmonica, and 2 more like this

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Sept 28, 2015 13:59:39 GMT -6 dirkgently said:

@wrabbit2000,

I don't remember an "open door" policy for illegal german immigrants in the 1940's.

Do you?

Oh, you'll hear no debate from me about the sheer insanity of open immigration right now. Especially from a population we're in open war with.

My only point is what it usually is. I just want to make sure we're half way selective among a population of a billion, when maybe 10's of thousasnds, all totaled together, are who really fight against us and the rest of the civilized world. Maybe...6 figures, if it's really wild for numbers at this point. Among over a billion? Well... Not being selective tends to make our own enemies much larger ones.

Immigration tho? I'd just say NO for the duration, PERIOD. Then again, this is the Administration who thought importing Ebola to the Americas was a dandy idea. So I don't know what they're thinking anymore...or if they think much at all, either way. :dunno:

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Post by Daitengu on Sept 28, 2015 15:58:54 GMT -6

Terminate every one of em ........ burn every damn quran ....... level every damn mosque ...... the primitives eager to die then oblige the bastards kill em all ....... erase every damn trace they even existed ......

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