The British seek to give up nukes, unilaterally!
Sept 27, 2015 7:05:09 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2015 7:05:09 GMT -6
Well... whew... This story actually comes as a MAJOR relief to me. In the first moment since Obama took office and began the run down of our nation..I was truly scared earlier this week.
I'd read from another source that the Pope had planned to announce, to Obama's agreement, that Nuclear Weapons were immoral to possess on any level, for any reason, by any nation. The idea that we would disarm on our own, to leave the rest of the nuclear club fully armed and ambitious was like hearing the very heart of our nation was to be torn out and sacrificed for the new world order.
Thankfully, I was wrong, and that source was in error! It is only the United Kingdom looking to lay themselves out for the world to pick over...
After all, you'd think a nation instrumental in assassinating the last man to do that...would have learned the danger of it. No...They apparently figure they are somehow above that by....what? I don't get that part, for WHY they figure they can be respected without the ability to defend their nation ..but I hope it works out for them.
It is a weapon of mass destruction if it is used first. It is a means of ultimate defense and deterrence if NOT in the hands of someone willing to First Strike with it. Half a century of peace between nations really interested in killing each other....stands to speak for that truth.
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It is a suicide note. If they give up their weapons and others have not, then they are entirely at the mercy and relying on the good Grace of those who dislike them and HAVE weapons to express it with. If they figure they can disarm and the US will repeat what we did in World War II, for defending them? I think they may lose their whole nation by that poor judgement, as I'm not sure America WILL go to open war in the defense of ANY other nation. At least under current leaders.
So... I truly do hope a gamble like this plays well for them. If not? I VERY much hope the Arabs leave London intact. It would be a loss to the world to see that city burned to the ground ..as the Arab (or other) conquest traditionally tends to do to foreign capitals.
I'd read from another source that the Pope had planned to announce, to Obama's agreement, that Nuclear Weapons were immoral to possess on any level, for any reason, by any nation. The idea that we would disarm on our own, to leave the rest of the nuclear club fully armed and ambitious was like hearing the very heart of our nation was to be torn out and sacrificed for the new world order.
Thankfully, I was wrong, and that source was in error! It is only the United Kingdom looking to lay themselves out for the world to pick over...
For six decades, British governments have considered unilateral nuclear disarmament unthinkable — but the once-unthinkable is the Labour Party's new normal. Britain's main opposition party has just elected a leader from the radical left, and this week party members may commit a future Labour government to scrapping Britain's Trident nuclear arms program.
It's the latest signal that new Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is prepared to consider policies that were off the agenda for decades, from nationalizing industry to diverging on foreign policy from the United States.
It's the latest signal that new Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is prepared to consider policies that were off the agenda for decades, from nationalizing industry to diverging on foreign policy from the United States.
After all, you'd think a nation instrumental in assassinating the last man to do that...would have learned the danger of it. No...They apparently figure they are somehow above that by....what? I don't get that part, for WHY they figure they can be respected without the ability to defend their nation ..but I hope it works out for them.
"This is a weapon of mass destruction."
It is a weapon of mass destruction if it is used first. It is a means of ultimate defense and deterrence if NOT in the hands of someone willing to First Strike with it. Half a century of peace between nations really interested in killing each other....stands to speak for that truth.
The divide between pro- and anti-nuclear forces has long been a fault-line in the Labour Party. It was Prime Minister Clement Attlee's Labour government that developed atomic weapons in the years following World War II, making Britain the world's third nuclear-armed state after the United States and the Soviet Union.
Every British government since then — Labour, Conservative or coalition — has maintained nuclear weapons. Since the 1990s, Britain's nuclear deterrent has consisted of four Royal Navy submarines armed with Trident missiles.
Labour briefly adopted a policy of unilateral disarmament under leader Michael Foot, whose election-losing 1983 party manifesto was described by one Labour lawmaker as "the longest suicide note in history."
Every British government since then — Labour, Conservative or coalition — has maintained nuclear weapons. Since the 1990s, Britain's nuclear deterrent has consisted of four Royal Navy submarines armed with Trident missiles.
Labour briefly adopted a policy of unilateral disarmament under leader Michael Foot, whose election-losing 1983 party manifesto was described by one Labour lawmaker as "the longest suicide note in history."
It is a suicide note. If they give up their weapons and others have not, then they are entirely at the mercy and relying on the good Grace of those who dislike them and HAVE weapons to express it with. If they figure they can disarm and the US will repeat what we did in World War II, for defending them? I think they may lose their whole nation by that poor judgement, as I'm not sure America WILL go to open war in the defense of ANY other nation. At least under current leaders.
So... I truly do hope a gamble like this plays well for them. If not? I VERY much hope the Arabs leave London intact. It would be a loss to the world to see that city burned to the ground ..as the Arab (or other) conquest traditionally tends to do to foreign capitals.
