hell of a video...very true @wrabbit2000, who do you feel the land belongs to??
At this point, and on that strip of land? Whoever has the power to hold it, is my honest answer.
If they kill Jews to a person, as some want to see happen, so they can take that land again? Jews who weren't there will just return to fighting as insurgent forces, as a complete flip of positions.
If the Arabs that may take it next cannot hold it, then other Arabs will kill those ones to the last man, and take it over again. I imagine that will rinse and repeat a couple times between Arabs with quite a bloodbath of Muslims fighting each other...before one faction or another rises to the top for sheer brutal power to hold the land and bring some stability to it.
The irony is? The majority of people who are living there and fighting the Jews today.....will die right next to them, and won't enjoy a day's worth of whatever comes next. A point seemingly lost on those fighting the hardest.
Ahh well.. that what gives the video its truth, I suppose. Everyone (all sides) seem to place control of that land above their own lives, and however many of their own people need to die in the process as it takes...dozens of times over now.
Post by minstrel63 on Sept 24, 2015 9:00:50 GMT -6
Do you think this is about religion?, or, more basically, clan domination?
Were all 'religions' birthed in some kind of land/territory-grab, or is it only the Abrahamic religions?
What about Mexican drug cartels?
Does religion comprise a big part of the glue that binds them together...or, has that been replaced with a more pure, unadulterated violence?
If the Native American Peoples of the continental US had possessed some common religious system of belief, would the story of Western progress and civilization have a different ending?
Mao said all power comes from the barrel of a gun (or something close to that?) He has not been proven wrong countless times with few exceptions.
The Indians of America were so busy fighting each other and raiding for women that they were blind sided. There was one Chief (I don't remember his name unless it was Tucumseh) that actually made peace with two other tribes and held the invaders off but after his death the tribes split and started bickering again. Ta Da found him ! Well I was close, No?
Tecumseh (/tɛˈkʌmsə/ te-KUM-sə; March 1768 – October 5, 1813) was a Native American leader of the Shawnee and a large tribal confederacy (known as Tecumseh's Confederacy) which opposed the United States during Tecumseh's War and became an ally of Britain in the War of 1812.
Tecumseh grew up in the Ohio Country during the American Revolutionary War and the Northwest Indian War, where he was constantly exposed to warfare.[1] With Americans continuing to move west after the British ceded the Ohio Valley to the new United States in 1783, the Shawnee moved farther northwest. In 1808, they settled Prophetstown in present-day Indiana. With a vision of establishing an independent Native American nation east of the Mississippi under British protection, Tecumseh worked to recruit additional tribes to the confederacy from the southern United States.[1]
During the War of 1812, Tecumseh's confederacy allied with the British and helped in the capture of Fort Detroit. Prior to the raid, Chief Tecumseh delivered a powerful speech upon a rock that is preserved to this day at Fort Malden. After the U.S. Navy took control of Lake Erie in 1813, the Native Americans and British retreated. American forces caught them at the Battle of the Thames, and killed Tecumseh in October 1813. With his death, his confederation disintegrated, and the Native Americans had to move west again, yet Tecumseh became an iconic folk hero in American, Aboriginal and Canadian history.
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Meh ....... fence it all off ....... throw all the idiots arguing over it inside ..... give em weapons and let em butcher each other over their skyfairy to their hearts content .......
And in the rest of world civilization can go on without the stupidity ........
Post by rickymouse on Sept 30, 2015 14:45:33 GMT -6
Whew, good video. It makes me happy that I do not own my land, I only lease it from the government and pay rent to the government every six months. Strange that I had to buy the right to pay the government money.
Do you think this is about religion?, or, more basically, clan domination?
Well, I think you're going to dislike my honest opinion on that.
I think its about human nature, and the rest is window dressing for avenues to express what is a core part of our nature from birth. We're an Apex Predator species. Sure..We can master language, has thumbs and know the secrets of the atom (all the better to kill with, my dear!), but in the end and when all that is stripped away to imagine humans without pretense? We're competitive by birth, viciously protective and territorial by nature and civilized by choice.
That choosing comes in degrees, and with enough caveats to give a civil attorney a reason to seek retirement. Expression of dominance and the need for that is still a part of our existence though, and the more some segments of society deny it is, the more one part rebels to the point of proving it to murderous extremes ..while others simply look to express their new found desire to TAKE, by force, what the naive goobers with the funny ideas have to be taken from them.
Post by minstrel63 on Sept 30, 2015 18:58:35 GMT -6
@wrabbit2000,
Apex Predator species... Humans without pretense...
What are we? Seems we must be the evil joke the world played on itself... ...
Why do we want to be around each other...then?
An Apex Predator could also be An Apex Evader.
I don't want to eat you. I don't want to beat you. Don't want to kill, rape, defame or otherwise foul you, either. So - what makes this human without pretense...into a vicious monster?
Honestly - Again - Why...if this nasty genetic aberration is inherent in each and every 'human soul' born on this plane...Why...do we want to be around &-even intimate-with...each other? ...to compete?
Well, I wonder if we aren't looking at Predator, as a term, from different angles? I'm looking at that from a plain biologic and anthropological standpoint.
Predator doesn't meant Predatory. The difference being that the former is how we've survived to sit at the top of the food chain (in almost all areas of the world we live), and the latter being the dysfunctional people we warehouse for life or execute under the laws of society.
In the mean time since the topic of the thread is slightly drifting (nothing wrong with that IMO) this just in !!
Demonstrating a new level of tension with Israel, President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority declared Wednesday that it was no longer bound by the Oslo Accords that formed the basis for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
In his annual General Assembly speech, Mr. Abbas accused Israel of having violated the accords and subsequent agreements. He asserted that there was no reason the Palestinians should remain faithful to them as long as the Israelis were not.
“We cannot continue to be bound by these signed agreements with Israel and Israel must assume fully all its responsibility as an occupying power,” Mr. Abbas said.
There had been speculation fed by Mr. Abbas’s aides that he would drop a “bombshell” announcement during his speech. While the announcement sounded serious, the practical effects were not immediately clear.
