I've been a fan of Dr. Pepper for a couple decades. Literally. It's my favorite soda. Lately, when I open a bottle and it's come out of the fridge? It turns to ice ONLY after being opened..but usually within a minute for forming the first ice.
My fridge hasn't changed and I've even turned it down..twice...since this started last week. Nothing else is having any issues with too cold, although everything is nice and cool.
Now I am getting tired of having to basically put my soda under hot water for a minute just to raise the temp SO far above 'cold' it cannot freeze without breaking every law of physics.
Should I trash Dr. Pepper outright??? Has something in their formula changed?!
When I hauled grapes..as an example of what this seems like...we hauled them at about 30 degrees. 2 degrees below freezing. The reason is simple...people like cold grapes, and grapes are just little balls of sugar when it comes down to it. Sugar has a lower freeze point for how it sits in a grape..so it made for very chilled..but never frozen grapes.
Is there something about this Soda that could have changed its freeze point related to its exposure to regular air?? It is concerning me a bit, because, if the laws of physics haven't taken a flyer in my fridge...then something in the soda had to have changed, since nothing else has.
The freezing temperature of a liquid is also contingent on the pressure.
Salt water has a lower freezing temperature.
Liquids under higher pressures also have a lower freezing point. When you open the can/bottle the pressure decreases while the temp stays the same, ergo; instant freeze.
Explanation: *SINGS* Let It go! Let it go! Can't hold it back anymore! The cold never bothered me anyway! errr wait a minute ..this isn't the frozen audition for fizzy people is it? Oops!
Personal Disclosure: Dirk is correct! The sudden drop in pressure with the super chilled pressurized fluid causes the temperature to drop quite a bit locally when the can suddenly outgasses during opening!
The problem is...this isn't super cooled. I know what you mean, and the same thing is done for a party trick with a bottle of beer. Pretty cool to see that done in person too....
This is out of a fridge that hasn't changed, while the behavior of the soda has. Everything else in there is cool but not overly so..and without getting into too much detail, lets just say extreme cold wouldn't be something I'd miss. My teeth...would never let me miss it. lol...
So.. Pressure, cold...and what else? Two of the three make sense..but something else is involved here and had to have changed in some small way. JUST enough to nudge over the threshold of forming ice from liquid soda inside the bottle.
Oh..it isn't solid ice either..It forms a slushy/Icee type mix.
Post by rickymouse on Aug 28, 2015 11:28:46 GMT -6
Well, there are a lot of correct answers on here. But I tend to look at things differently. The carbonization builds up pressure which exerts more energy on the atoms and molecules and energy created by this lowers the temperature of which it freezes. When you open the can it automatically freezes because the energy of the pressure exertion is released and the molecules and atoms instantly correct flash freezing it. energy can be stored in pressure itself, it forms a chemical/physical reaction. When you touch something frozen and metal with a wet tongue, your tongue sticks because it technically welds itself to the metal using water as a sort of catalyst. The energy flows from your body into the metal which causes a reduction of repulsion of molecules and they join with a weak bond. Basically welding works the same way, the energy overloads the bonds melting them and they reconnect together. When enough energy is gained to overcome the newly made bond the tongue will release from the metal.
It is the slingshot effect of energy that causes the rapid freezing of the soda. The same slingshot effect is present in the home hot water lines, the hot water lines can actually freeze faster than cold water lines. Running water does not freeze at the freezing point because the energy in the movement actually adds energy to the water but as soon as real cold water stops moving it usually has accelerated freezing capability because the movement energy dissipates rapidly.
Kind of a rough interpretation of things, I'm not good at portraying this information well because I did not memorize all the words they use that nobody really completely understands anyway other than scientists.
Post by EyesOpenMouthShut on Aug 28, 2015 20:05:34 GMT -6
@wrabbit2000, its the carbonation. carbonation raises the freezing point of liquids but once you open it the sudden drop in temp from the carbonation escaping causes the soda inside to actually supercool so fast it freezes solid even if the temp was originally slightly above freezing. try to move them to a spot in the fridge furthest from the cold air or you're going to have to raise the temp again to the 40s or so
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