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Do it right or wreck the bird. Jul 2, 2015 22:57:22 GMT -6 Nugget, dirkgently, and 5 more like this

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Post by 727sky on Jul 2, 2015 22:57:22 GMT -6

I was offered some Bush flying in Alaska but never seemed to have the time:
The pilot managed to land and take off from a postage stamp gravel island in the middle of a river in Alaska, using water assisted landing technique.

The airplane touched down in the water a few feet before the island with what appear to be 29-inch tundra tires and came to a stop right in the middle of the small gravel bar. Shortly after it came to a full stop, the airplane took off, again dipping the tires in the river.

Landing on water with anything other than a seaplane is certainly not advisable, but it is a technique widely used by experienced bush pilots.

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Do it right or wreck the bird. Jul 2, 2015 23:09:01 GMT -6 Nugget, Daitengu, and 4 more like this

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I forgot to add that a STOL take-off is cool and needed at times however if the engine quits the bird will stall and fall off a wing usually nose first into the dirt. It is called hanging on a prop and hoping your prop works like advertised !

Wiley Post airport OKC some guys were thinking about buying a helicopter but were talked into a demo on a Platus Porter aircraft which is a super STOL turbo prop aircraft. 5 people were onboard while I sat at the end of the runway in a Saberliner getting ready to go to Vegas. They pulled on the runway mid-field and did a super short field take-off. The deck angle must have been close to 45% once airborne. Evidently the fuel system could not supply the required fuel at that angle of attack in that situation and the PT-6 engine quit after the aircraft was about three wings spans high. The bird fell off to the left and impacted with it's nose in the dirt. All 5 people became crispy critters and died with the resulting fire.

Aviation is actually extremely safe IF you always leave yourself and out.. Otherwise you are putting yourself into what the helicopter boys call a "coffin corner".

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Do it right or wreck the bird. Jul 3, 2015 0:25:25 GMT -6 Nugget, 727sky, and 2 more like this

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Some great flying there ..... best pilots ever saw were the guys that flew the hueys for us in vietnam they had balls of steel with what they flew us into and out of not to mention land in spots that wouldnt think they could land in ......

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Do it right or wreck the bird. Jul 3, 2015 4:08:51 GMT -6 Nugget, Daitengu, and 3 more like this

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Jul 3, 2015 0:25:25 GMT -6 Daitengu said:

Some great flying there ..... best pilots ever saw were the guys that flew the hueys for us in vietnam they had balls of steel with what they flew us into and out of not to mention land in spots that wouldnt think they could land in ......

Just remember we were young, bold, almost invisible and quite stupid but very good at it. Like you we were probably not going to survive so why not go out and do your best until it happened.

The Huey could take a licking and keep on ticking.... or...... one golden BB could put you in the trees.

I am very thankful I returned with all my pieces still attached and not burned beyond recognition.

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Do it right or wreck the bird. Jul 3, 2015 8:09:49 GMT -6 Nugget, 727sky, and 3 more like this

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Jul 3, 2015 0:25:25 GMT -6 Daitengu said:

Some great flying there ..... best pilots ever saw were the guys that flew the hueys for us in vietnam they had balls of steel with what they flew us into and out of not to mention land in spots that wouldnt think they could land in ......

You know, it looks so easy in the movies, and TV. They make it look soooo easy. The more I've gotten into realistic flight sims for helicopters in particular (I think a chimp could fly a Cessna with a bit of time in the standard ways...) the more respect I've gained for what the pilots in that war did. I mean, it takes every bit of mental concentration in at least 3 directions in the same instant to instant time frames just to keep from crashing the stupid egg beaters. To imagine, they were doing all that as second nature..WHILE in a hot battlefield, taking fire and trying not to be a good target too?

There ought to be a special class of recognition award for the helicopter pilots of that war, as a unique thing.

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Tragic story about that plane that stalled and nose dived. What a waste...and just to be a show off, probably. 'Look what I can do!'. Erm...yeah...

Altho, side note here..I was watching a show the other day about Air Force One that confirmed something I'd only heard in eyewitness reports from 9/11 before. When Air Force One went airborne in Florida, it did damn near what you describe that little plane doing, and then some for going as close to ballistic as that overpowered beast could without coming back down. Apparently, it was quite a sight for a capability they don't openly confirm it has.

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