Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 15:00:25 GMT -6
I'm not anti-military, by any means. However, I'm also not a blanket supporter of the Military, as a given, and with trust automatically extended without question. Situations like what this guy created are why.
This is what I'd consider to be one of the worst single incidents of the entire Afghan war.
LWOP was a gift, for this man.
See what I mean? Literally...a gift.
Also...it is interesting to read this article from the past, and get a feel for the true sense of what he did ...then read the second article below to see how the media can change the whole tone of something. They term what happened as 'morning raids'....as if, perhaps we could imagine he was a part of a group that went loopy and not a single individual who went psychopathic.
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If this sounds like a case I'm familiar with, its because I am. I wrote a couple large threads about it on TOS at different points of the process with this guy.
Now comes the begging for mercy, it seems...
Okay. I don't know many serial or spree killers who HAVE had compassion for their fellow man, and being there isn't enough by itself, to my thinking. If it were, then we truly SHOULD fear every single vet who has done multiple combat tours, as many have. Many have done far more than his 4. If the above should mitigate anything, than it is a thread of common experience through all vets.
I declare a fail on the 50 yard line with that excuse...but he expands on it.
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Yup... Killer's minds are all consumed by something, or they wouldn't BE spree or serial killers. He was a spree killer, and one of some true distinction for the sheer numbers and horror he inflicted through unique circumstances that made it possible.
In previous threads about this case, I've tended to feel he was also a victim of war, as he had expressed no memory of what happened and a general befuddlement in what one previous article termed a blackout, as I recall. Now he has much clearer recollection of his state of mind, motivation and one might assume...his deeds. Oh... I See.
Well, the traumatic amnesia bought him a little sympathy, I think. Without it? He's simply one of the most prolific spree killers in history, on or off a battlefield. Not near the top records, perhaps..but he damn sure scored a place on that infamous list.
We could always extradite him back to Afghanistan to give the locals what they damn near went to another war over forcing. Afghan justice for what this American did, completely and totally OUTSIDE the duties of what put him in the place to do it.
At least in my humble opinion.
This is what I'd consider to be one of the worst single incidents of the entire Afghan war.
Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, who has admitted to the murder of 16 civilians during a pair of solo nighttime raids in Afghanistan, was on Friday sentenced to life in prison without parole at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state.
LWOP was a gift, for this man.
Bales pleaded guilty in June to avoid the death penalty. He had hoped a military jury would allow for the possibility that he would be paroled and spend at least part of the rest of his life as a free man. Bales apologized on Thursday for his actions from the witness stand.
See what I mean? Literally...a gift.
Also...it is interesting to read this article from the past, and get a feel for the true sense of what he did ...then read the second article below to see how the media can change the whole tone of something. They term what happened as 'morning raids'....as if, perhaps we could imagine he was a part of a group that went loopy and not a single individual who went psychopathic.
Bales went on a murderous rampage through two poor villages in Kandahar province last March. After the first attack, in a village called Alkozai, he returned to base and woke up another soldier, who he told about the attack. The soldier did not believe him and went back to sleep. He then left the base and attacked the second village.
If this sounds like a case I'm familiar with, its because I am. I wrote a couple large threads about it on TOS at different points of the process with this guy.
Now comes the begging for mercy, it seems...
TACOMA, Wash. (AP) — The U.S. soldier who murdered 16 Afghan villagers in 2012 says he had lost compassion for Iraqis and Afghans over the course of his four combat deployments.
Okay. I don't know many serial or spree killers who HAVE had compassion for their fellow man, and being there isn't enough by itself, to my thinking. If it were, then we truly SHOULD fear every single vet who has done multiple combat tours, as many have. Many have done far more than his 4. If the above should mitigate anything, than it is a thread of common experience through all vets.
I declare a fail on the 50 yard line with that excuse...but he expands on it.
He said his mind was "consumed by war," and that after being in prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, for two years he now understands that what he thought was normal was the farthest thing from it.
Yup... Killer's minds are all consumed by something, or they wouldn't BE spree or serial killers. He was a spree killer, and one of some true distinction for the sheer numbers and horror he inflicted through unique circumstances that made it possible.
In previous threads about this case, I've tended to feel he was also a victim of war, as he had expressed no memory of what happened and a general befuddlement in what one previous article termed a blackout, as I recall. Now he has much clearer recollection of his state of mind, motivation and one might assume...his deeds. Oh... I See.
Well, the traumatic amnesia bought him a little sympathy, I think. Without it? He's simply one of the most prolific spree killers in history, on or off a battlefield. Not near the top records, perhaps..but he damn sure scored a place on that infamous list.
We could always extradite him back to Afghanistan to give the locals what they damn near went to another war over forcing. Afghan justice for what this American did, completely and totally OUTSIDE the duties of what put him in the place to do it.
At least in my humble opinion.