Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 6:44:37 GMT -6
It seems there is more being released into the press now about the Freddie Gray homicide. Among the details I wasn't aware of is that Baltimore has a camera system as good as any, covering their public streets and sidewalks. In other words, there had been no need to wonder what happened here..or how. At least in terms of what could be seen on the street. In fact, Police posted the videos at one point...then removed the critical one, where Gray is pulled from the van in another unscheduled stop, shackled and flexi-cuffed, and put back in the van head first (recall, he was brained by a bolt on the BACK door ...not the front. So, it is a reasonable guess that that last stop came AFTER he'd sustained the wound later proven to be fatal ...and this is before the second prisoner was added, where he'd heard a few thumps and then silence.
The Baker street video is apparently the more critical one here, and where they may have been shackling after he'd been knocked unconscious or worse. This Baker street stop is where a cell phone video also existed.
Typical thugs these days...and we see it often enough where there is no question to what happened. I mean the threat with a taser for the nerve to film a public event on a public street. Criminals want cover and the ability to hide their actions. Police Officers should have nothing to fear. Which did we have here? We have complete idiots..if nothing else....and I don't believe cops are idiots. I simply don't buy that excuse. Especially not if they've been cops for more than a year to learn the basics of their trade.
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I think I am starting to understand the charges a bit better. Their police report also states they HAD to restrain Gray at the stop he is clearly unresponsive at, because ..according to them..he was wild and out of control. Umm...Okay...thats one helluva trick for a man the videos from citizens show half dead ..or more than half already. Oops.... They keep forgetting cameras are EVERYWHERE, it seems.
We have to see, in a court and through our system, which of these Officers (if any) are guilty of murder or other charges related to the death of a prisoner here. However, its a good thing no one is calling me for duty on this Jury. The more I am reading and learning from just public knowledge of this case? The more I wonder if some of these guys should have been on the OTHER side of Law Enforcement all along.
Too many with badges seem more comfortable and natural with the ways of criminal predators.....not the ways of those charged with protecting and serving innocent citizens.
The video shows Gray halfway out of the van, his stomach flat on the floor, and his legs hanging off the back. He does not move as four officers stand over him and place shackles around his ankles.
In her first interview about the incident, Gross, 58, said she was shocked at the turn of events that led to Gray's death from a spinal injury. "I thought his leg was just broke and that he was just going to the police station and we would hear him that afternoon," she said recently, as tears streamed down her cheeks.
Most of the video of Gray was taken of the arrest at Mount and Presbury Streets. Less is known about what happened a block away, when the van stopped at Baker Street and he was shackled.
In her first interview about the incident, Gross, 58, said she was shocked at the turn of events that led to Gray's death from a spinal injury. "I thought his leg was just broke and that he was just going to the police station and we would hear him that afternoon," she said recently, as tears streamed down her cheeks.
Most of the video of Gray was taken of the arrest at Mount and Presbury Streets. Less is known about what happened a block away, when the van stopped at Baker Street and he was shackled.
The Baker street video is apparently the more critical one here, and where they may have been shackling after he'd been knocked unconscious or worse. This Baker street stop is where a cell phone video also existed.
The neighbor said Porter motioned to Rice, identifying him as the supervisor. On the video, the neighbor says, "Can we get someone else out here? This is not cool. This is not cool. Do you hear me?" The man's shouts are heard on the phone, but not the officers' responses.
The man said that Rice and other officers moved toward him, blocking his view of the van. They didn't ask him to stop recording, but Rice took out his Taser and threatened to use it if he didn't leave, the man said.
The man said that Rice and other officers moved toward him, blocking his view of the van. They didn't ask him to stop recording, but Rice took out his Taser and threatened to use it if he didn't leave, the man said.
Typical thugs these days...and we see it often enough where there is no question to what happened. I mean the threat with a taser for the nerve to film a public event on a public street. Criminals want cover and the ability to hide their actions. Police Officers should have nothing to fear. Which did we have here? We have complete idiots..if nothing else....and I don't believe cops are idiots. I simply don't buy that excuse. Especially not if they've been cops for more than a year to learn the basics of their trade.
Joseph L. Giacalone, a retired New York Police Department detective sergeant who trains law enforcement, said, "You would never put a detainee struggling to breathe face down because that never promotes free breathing."
The officer who drove the van, Caesar Goodson Jr., has been charged with second-degree depraved-heart murder, involuntary manslaughter among other charges. Rice, who was the highest ranking officer at the arrest scene, has been charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
The officer who drove the van, Caesar Goodson Jr., has been charged with second-degree depraved-heart murder, involuntary manslaughter among other charges. Rice, who was the highest ranking officer at the arrest scene, has been charged with involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office and false imprisonment.
I think I am starting to understand the charges a bit better. Their police report also states they HAD to restrain Gray at the stop he is clearly unresponsive at, because ..according to them..he was wild and out of control. Umm...Okay...thats one helluva trick for a man the videos from citizens show half dead ..or more than half already. Oops.... They keep forgetting cameras are EVERYWHERE, it seems.
We have to see, in a court and through our system, which of these Officers (if any) are guilty of murder or other charges related to the death of a prisoner here. However, its a good thing no one is calling me for duty on this Jury. The more I am reading and learning from just public knowledge of this case? The more I wonder if some of these guys should have been on the OTHER side of Law Enforcement all along.
Too many with badges seem more comfortable and natural with the ways of criminal predators.....not the ways of those charged with protecting and serving innocent citizens.