Vienna Convention Is Part of Criminal Court Routine. . .
Apr 21, 2015 21:24:18 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 21:24:18 GMT -6
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Oh..Brother! slapforehead
Anyone ever see that TV Show from the 90's, 'Sliders'? They went to a different timeline of Earth each episode. Kinda stuck going between them, actually.
Umm.. Actually, I'd suggest, No. That isn't at all the case. That is the problem. This nutty, kooky calling of International Diplomatic Treaties for garden variety court issues run to garden variety rape/homicides, too!
You know, people here get lawyers. The ones who don't, get lawsuits if they survive the incarceration, or they become people like Jose Padilla, who eventually got where he needed to be the right way, anyway. I think that the whole 'call the embassy' bit compares a WEE different than nations where you'll be lucky to even GET an Embassy call, because asking for a lawyer is a real funny joke you become the punch line to.
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I'd also note, things like this would be easier if the US weren't violating its own laws, blatantly, every day, by herding millions more 'immigrants' into our nation. What other agreements should be honored to an almost silly point while little things like this tend to burden a system by sheer scale, and eventually, slow it down in a real way (The one in Texas bought time with it, anyway)?
Oh..Brother! slapforehead
“The people serve the Vienna Convention Notice,” the prosecutor informs the court.
Anyone ever see that TV Show from the 90's, 'Sliders'? They went to a different timeline of Earth each episode. Kinda stuck going between them, actually.
Only in Queens, a borough that is home to nearly 1.1 million immigrants, the city’s international airport and perhaps New York’s most international hospital, would a 1963 treaty written to protect foreign nationals figure in the most mundane of court proceedings.
Umm.. Actually, I'd suggest, No. That isn't at all the case. That is the problem. This nutty, kooky calling of International Diplomatic Treaties for garden variety court issues run to garden variety rape/homicides, too!
When trouble arises, it can span continents, and has sometimes put state governments at odds with federal officials and foreign diplomats. Mexico, Germany and Paraguay have all sued the United States in the International Court of Justice, commonly known as the World Court, after citizens of those countries who had been arrested, convicted and sentenced to the death penalty said they had not been informed of their consular rights.
You know, people here get lawyers. The ones who don't, get lawsuits if they survive the incarceration, or they become people like Jose Padilla, who eventually got where he needed to be the right way, anyway. I think that the whole 'call the embassy' bit compares a WEE different than nations where you'll be lucky to even GET an Embassy call, because asking for a lawyer is a real funny joke you become the punch line to.
The issue has reached the Supreme Court, which in 2008 ruled against one of the plaintiffs in the case involving Mexico, a man who had been sentenced to death in Texas after being convicted of rape and murder. The Court ruled that despite a directive from President George W. Bush and a finding by the World Court that the defendant’s trial for murder violated United States obligations under the Vienna Convention treaty, the Texas courts were not required to give him a new hearing.
I'd also note, things like this would be easier if the US weren't violating its own laws, blatantly, every day, by herding millions more 'immigrants' into our nation. What other agreements should be honored to an almost silly point while little things like this tend to burden a system by sheer scale, and eventually, slow it down in a real way (The one in Texas bought time with it, anyway)?