This is the law with no common sense applied!
Apr 15, 2015 9:33:35 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 9:33:35 GMT -6
This is a tragic story of how bullying can utterly, totally and complete destroy the life of the victim, while actually coming to turn an aggressive bully into a sympathetic figure themselves. Up is down and black is white. The new normal....as this child is learning, in a very cruel way.
Now that sounds pretty cut and dry on the face of it, and that is where the Law comes in. It is simple, on the face of it. Likewise, if I confided that late last night, I blew a guys manhood clean off and all over a wall behind him? You'd think me a monster or a dangerous felon ...unless you then heard the guy had just been getting off a woman, after ravaging her. Indeed... mitigation can make ...perhaps not RIGHT...but a draw for consequence, at best.
Such was the case here, in my view, because he wasn't the aggressor as this reads.
He took the gun to scare a girl who had been bullying him... Hmm... I'd have no sympathy here either, if that has been his first move..or even on the top several choices. It doesn't sound to have been though, and you'll want to read this whole thing for A LOT more to the story, but this is how that aspect plays out...
had been aware of it...Yes...I'm sure they were. How many of us endured some period of bullying that may have gone past anything decent ..or watched it done to others ...while the school 'was aware' and 'looking into things'? Enough times to be sick in hindsight, in my case...and I wonder what ever did happen to some of the kids who were mentally beaten down the worst.
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Should the kid get a pass? Oh hell no. What he did was wrong and he IS old enough to learn a lesson from it. Should he be committed to a psych ward? Oh..what the hell?? It's obvious by reading it, that was a ploy to avoid the kid going down on hard firearms violations to do SERIOUS time, as a child his age can be sent to, anyway. Talk about a favor becoming a curse ..and what of the bully?
Well, we don't hear about her. Protected for the privacy concerns of the aggressor, I'd imagine. Can't have that getting out ... Meanwhile, she must be pleased enough to burst. She totally, absolutely and completely DESTROYED this kids life. First by tormenting him, then by pushing him to the point of response ....in time to see him stomped like a roach as soon as he did.
......when I was going to school, I did get bullied a couple times. In one of those cases, I put a girl on her ass so hard, I almost got thrown out of the YMCA for it. She was a few years older, had 100 lbs on me, and it wasn't a slapy slapy fight. She meant to do serious damage ...before I did it to her. So..I don't have the attitude some have about women being made of glass and untouchable. Women can, in SOME cases, be an aggressor to a level boys don't even consider matching. My general response to bullies though, was to use the point of my boot or the mass of my knee to insure whatever plans they EVER had to sire children would never come true after the conflict with me ....and very few looked to experience that themselves, after the first couple times proved I MEANT to do it and took some satisfaction from it. (Bullys respect strength....and attack weakness in a feeding frenzy)
Too bad this kid didn't respond closer to being in-line with the threat. Maybe he wouldn't be looking at his life essentially ending, in many ways, before it even had a chance to start.
Reinstating criminal charges against a boy who brought a gun to school, the West Virginia Supreme Court agreed with prosecutors that the student's alleged motivation made the action one of violence.
J.Y., as he is identified in the court record, was 12 when he brought a loaded semi-automatic pistol to school on Sept. 13, 2013, according to the April 9 opinion.
J.Y., as he is identified in the court record, was 12 when he brought a loaded semi-automatic pistol to school on Sept. 13, 2013, according to the April 9 opinion.
Now that sounds pretty cut and dry on the face of it, and that is where the Law comes in. It is simple, on the face of it. Likewise, if I confided that late last night, I blew a guys manhood clean off and all over a wall behind him? You'd think me a monster or a dangerous felon ...unless you then heard the guy had just been getting off a woman, after ravaging her. Indeed... mitigation can make ...perhaps not RIGHT...but a draw for consequence, at best.
Such was the case here, in my view, because he wasn't the aggressor as this reads.
He allegedly later told police that he took the gun from his grandparents' home to scare a girl who had been bullying him.
He took the gun to scare a girl who had been bullying him... Hmm... I'd have no sympathy here either, if that has been his first move..or even on the top several choices. It doesn't sound to have been though, and you'll want to read this whole thing for A LOT more to the story, but this is how that aspect plays out...
School personnel had been aware of the bullying situation and had been checking in on J.Y., but J.Y. told police that had only made the bullying worse, Loughry added.
had been aware of it...Yes...I'm sure they were. How many of us endured some period of bullying that may have gone past anything decent ..or watched it done to others ...while the school 'was aware' and 'looking into things'? Enough times to be sick in hindsight, in my case...and I wonder what ever did happen to some of the kids who were mentally beaten down the worst.
"J.Y.'s clearly expressed intention to use the deadly weapon to scare the girl who had been bullying him, coupled with his belief that the bullying incidents were escalating as a result of the intervention by school personnel, makes it more likely than not that he would have brandished and possibly fired the gun, if more time had elapsed before it was discovered by the principal," Loughry wrote.
Should the kid get a pass? Oh hell no. What he did was wrong and he IS old enough to learn a lesson from it. Should he be committed to a psych ward? Oh..what the hell?? It's obvious by reading it, that was a ploy to avoid the kid going down on hard firearms violations to do SERIOUS time, as a child his age can be sent to, anyway. Talk about a favor becoming a curse ..and what of the bully?
Well, we don't hear about her. Protected for the privacy concerns of the aggressor, I'd imagine. Can't have that getting out ... Meanwhile, she must be pleased enough to burst. She totally, absolutely and completely DESTROYED this kids life. First by tormenting him, then by pushing him to the point of response ....in time to see him stomped like a roach as soon as he did.
......when I was going to school, I did get bullied a couple times. In one of those cases, I put a girl on her ass so hard, I almost got thrown out of the YMCA for it. She was a few years older, had 100 lbs on me, and it wasn't a slapy slapy fight. She meant to do serious damage ...before I did it to her. So..I don't have the attitude some have about women being made of glass and untouchable. Women can, in SOME cases, be an aggressor to a level boys don't even consider matching. My general response to bullies though, was to use the point of my boot or the mass of my knee to insure whatever plans they EVER had to sire children would never come true after the conflict with me ....and very few looked to experience that themselves, after the first couple times proved I MEANT to do it and took some satisfaction from it. (Bullys respect strength....and attack weakness in a feeding frenzy)
Too bad this kid didn't respond closer to being in-line with the threat. Maybe he wouldn't be looking at his life essentially ending, in many ways, before it even had a chance to start.
