Selma as "Bloody Sunday"??

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 7:18:00 GMT -6 dirkgently, Glencairn, and 4 more like this

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What does the term "Bloody Sunday" mean to you? To me and those I knew growing up, the reference had only one meaning and one event to refer to. popular culture, as I ever heard it, only used that term to refer to one thing. It had NOTHING to do with American Civil Rights, now or ever.

January, 1972 - Bloody Sunday

So it was a little surprising to see Obama and Co. refering to Selma Alabama as "Bloody Sunday". After all, 13 men died (and 13 more wounded) at the event in Northern Ireland. NO ONE died at Selma. One shouldn't have anything to do with the other...except for that name usage.

I went to check google for just when the term to describe a massacre got co-opted to describe a violent day in the civil rights movement...and was further surprised to find I couldn't find an obvious time/date stamp. Even the history channel reference and page about Selma, using this reference, is undated.

When...(before or after this President came to redefine the world for us) did Bloody Sunday come to refer to the events at Selma?

Can anyone recall a source I can find...in ANY form (popular media works too), dated prior to 2008 that used the reference?

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 7:47:52 GMT -6 Glencairn, emotionallyincorrect, and 2 more like this

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Post by Doug on Mar 7, 2015 7:47:52 GMT -6

Obama, his admin and progressives in general love to rewrite history and compromise familiar terminology so that it suits their agenda. If repeated often enough, it becomes rote.

I heard him say that on the radio and thought that he was fusing the Ireland incident at first in a comparison for upcoming St. Patrick's day. Then I heard the words Selma and thought to myself..."WTF!? No one died that day, unless it was from natural causes."

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 7:58:37 GMT -6 Glencairn, emotionallyincorrect, and 2 more like this

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I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who instantly made the connection, and recognized the wrong in the whole thing.

Somehow, I really DO feel better to hear it strikes others just as quick and just as wrong. I guess we need to really get nervous when it no longer seems to.

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 12:10:48 GMT -6 Glencairn, betrayedone, and 1 more like this

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Post by emotionallyincorrect on Mar 7, 2015 12:10:48 GMT -6

Interesting!

Thanks for sharing that observation. I never would have caught it.

So I guess history is being not so much rewritten but having words changed to enflame racial tensions?

Just to add, after reading this, I had FOX news on and low and behold they had some US politicians getting on a plane to go to Selma, in honor of "Bloody Sunday".

Wow! Just WOW!

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 12:38:07 GMT -6 Glencairn, emotionallyincorrect, and 2 more like this

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emotionallyincorrect,

Indeed.... It is something else, isn't it? Remaking movies, rather than making entirely new ones, to almost re-write the cultural history itself isn't enough. Taking the names and references of other historic events seems necessary, and of course, this isn't the first time names have been 'borrowed' where convenient, eh?

Some may have no idea what Bloody Sunday was about though, for how nasty that was. U2 even made a little song about it, to memorialize the event.

The song over the dramatized depiction of events that day is a bit rough...but then, what happened is more than a 'bit' rough, and perhaps the video is appropriate in that way.

The dogs and racist cops of Alabama were bad. No question. However, no comparison either. At least, not in my view.

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 12:45:46 GMT -6 Glencairn, Doug, and 2 more like this

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Post by emotionallyincorrect on Mar 7, 2015 12:45:46 GMT -6

I think the majority of human kind can get past some of our more "brutal" times in our countries history?

Instead of building and celebrating how far we have come, I see nothing but manipulation to open old wounds and to further aggression of many who don't even know why they choose to hate?

IMO, the mental manipulations and untruths being used by those in charge are much worse than those from the past who didn't know better due to the times and birthing pains as a society.

Sometimes opening old wounds can lead to a healing process that is much needed. That is not what these manipulations are about!

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 13:33:26 GMT -6 Glencairn, Doug, and 3 more like this

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Post by dirkgently on Mar 7, 2015 13:33:26 GMT -6

I asked my wife and son to say the first thing that comes to mind when I say the words, "Bloody Sunday".

My wife said, "Ireland".

My son said, "Civil Rights".

Well played social media, bloody well played.

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 19:18:10 GMT -6 dirkgently, Glencairn, and 2 more like this

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Mar 7, 2015 7:47:52 GMT -6 Doug said:

Obama, his admin and progressives in general love to rewrite history and compromise familiar terminology so that it suits their agenda. If repeated often enough, it becomes rote.

I heard him say that on the radio and thought that he was fusing the Ireland incident at first in a comparison for upcoming St. Patrick's day. Then I heard the words Selma and thought to myself..."WTF!? No one died that day, unless it was from natural causes."

True, Very True, Just like the Old Communist Regimes rewrote history to reflect Their Beliefs of how History was Shaped By Communism and Their Foresight.
How are the Progressives any different? Look at what they teach your kids in school about America. They are teaching your kids that Free Speech is a Form Of Hate Speech!
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“[T]he American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism,” the bill continues, arguing that “symbolism has negative and positive aspects that are interpreted differently by individuals.”

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 19:36:52 GMT -6 dirkgently, Doug, and 1 more like this

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Post by emotionallyincorrect on Mar 7, 2015 19:36:52 GMT -6

What does the "Flag" even mean anymore to our current brainwashed society?

I believe the threat of the American flag is not so much what it is, but "What it stands for". Of course politicians pimp it out and use it promote their lies, but when do we ever hear any of them stand up for the flag when a Progressive bunch of Brown shirts demand it is taken down?

When??

The flag to me means what I must fight to preserve, not in the name of "Nationality" but in the name of someone who believes in Freedom and not this New World Order Bullsnip that our politicians are reaching for but don't have the balls to admit it!

To be honest? If Old Glory meant what our current government promotes, I am against it! However, I am old enough to know what it actually stands for and that is why I will defend it against these Progressive Nazi's that our so offended by it! By using the term Progressive? I include both parties who have an allegiance to the global banks!

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Take God out of it if you are not a believer and just think of the last few words. "with liberty and justice FOR ALL"

Who has Justice today, except for those who are wealthy enough to afford it?

What group isn't fighting for their rights without taking away the rights of others?

We have lost our way America!

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Selma as "Bloody Sunday"?? Mar 7, 2015 23:09:38 GMT -6 dirkgently, Glencairn, and 3 more like this

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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 23:09:38 GMT -6

@wrabbit2000,Doug,emotionallyincorrect,dirkgently,@guohua,

Well today on the radio he was talking about the illegal immigrants and threw in Selma too

Friday on Sirius XM’s “Urban View” with Joe Madison, President Barack Obama said deporting Dreamers, illegal immigrants who came to the United States before they turned 18, would violate the “spirit,” of Selma.

The president said, “The notion that some kid that was brought here when he was two or three years old might somehow be deported at the age of 20 or 25, even though they’ve grown up as American, that’s not who we are. That’s not true to the spirit of what the march on Selma was about.”

Boy you could have heard my husband all the way to AZ

He said WTF does legal citizens who were deprived of their rights AS CITIZENS and beaten have to do with people who break the law entering our country a.k.a. ILLEGALS...they are called that for a reason

Yes, their kids born here are citizens but why combine the 2 issues like that
It's very bizarre

Damn if Obama went after other issues like he does black issues, he might just get more done

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