Post by bonhommearmonica on Sept 21, 2015 3:06:33 GMT -6
Doug, Let me go a little off the field for a second here
Please let me walk through this
The problem is we all suffer from a fallacy.. I think everyone thinks like me It has happened to many times in my D@#$ stories.. BCM looks at me and ask where the F#$% is this Giraffe on the connect a dots sail boat..
The problem is that you may be an outlier
Pause the thought
Now in bootcamp the RDCs and Drill Instructors do not get blank canvases Everyone has a past and presets (whir clicks in their minds.. triggers) The job is basic Break down the recruits build them back up
Separated from outside influences PT used as physical punishment rewards also used of small things same for later training just not to the same initial degree
Brainwashing 101
Pause this thought
Now we have the two points I needed Now lets ask some keys questions here
We are building a model A base model design for war and military thought
Lets look at you Your childhood was very different
We create a map of the key lessons you may have had What part of nurture gave you this
A lot of the kids going in did not have it Well we need to install the programming
Concepts honor dedication honesty hard work ect
All of those can be modeled into the soldier
All training is designed to do is take a model and have someone acting and operating in it Loyalty to a chain of command sacrifice for your fellow sailor or soldier
Combining them is where we wipe most of the stuff and build from the good things We take the personality type we want and reward the steps to it
We install the lessons that make good soldiers and maybe the parts that make the DFAS employees not suffer from the various weaknesses
bonhommearmonica, I get what your saying. I was born in a military hospital and my dad was a carreer Air Force pilot who came from a farming family. After my Mom died when I was all of eight months old (which damn near killed me as well, maybe more on that later), my Dad was deployed to the SEA theater and my Grandfolks raised me and my sisters on the farm for five years. And every summer after that. So I have been exposed to a lot of death growing up. Both the military and the agriculture aspects of my life have been filled with maiming and death as both are very hazardous jobs.
So to me...all the stuff about PTSD in some cases anyways befuddles me. As to me, it should be common sense that bad things happen in these occupations. Gotta be vigilant at all times is how I was raised. Safety first!
I'll expand further later on, but the sun is in my eyes and I can barely see the screen. (Gotta move the position of this laptop...but there are windows everywhere so there is glare no matter where i put it)
And I must get back to work. The job is never done here.
Beware the man who has one gun, he probably knows how to use it.
Most of the enlisted personnel are not presented that picture, and never considered that picture, as family and friends were cheering them on (for "getting the Frakk out of the house and doing something with their lives!")... Perhaps the enlisting age should be upped...to 21 or 23 or 28... If that were to take place...the military would probably need to reinstitute the draft to fill ranks.
PTSD manifests in people who have not seen war. PTSD can manifest in someone who suddenly & unexpectedly lost someone dear... It manifests all the time in survivors of fatal accidents and terroristic incidents. PTSD is like any other pain... You deal with it, or let someone tell you how to deal with it. Either way, the pain remains.
bonhommearmonica, I get what your saying. I was born in a military hospital and my dad was a carreer Air Force pilot who came from a farming family. After my Mom died when I was all of eight months old (which damn near killed me as well, maybe more on that later), my Dad was deployed to the SEA theater and my Grandfolks raised me and my sisters on the farm for five years. And every summer after that. So I have been exposed to a lot of death growing up. Both the military and the agriculture aspects of my life have been filled with maiming and death as both are very hazardous jobs.
So to me...all the stuff about PTSD in some cases anyways befuddles me. As to me, it should be common sense that bad things happen in these occupations. Gotta be vigilant at all times is how I was raised. Safety first!
I'll expand further later on, but the sun is in my eyes and I can barely see the screen. (Gotta move the position of this laptop...but there are windows everywhere so there is glare no matter where i put it)
And I must get back to work. The job is never done here.
You know that is the most awesome part of that statement
I also know the perfect place to test it What if we turned prisons into farms
Re-raised the cons Make the prisons with the Amish or some such crap
Could the Prisoners be turned around a free spot to test the model (your not turning them into soldiers but it might stop the BS)
Then if it has a certain percentage rate Animal husbandry agricultural training
for that post boot camp phase
I just blink right past that form of innoculation Most have never had to bury there own dog let alone put it down Or take cattle they raised to slaughter..
PTSD manifests in people who have not seen war. PTSD can manifest in someone who suddenly & unexpectedly lost someone dear... It manifests all the time in survivors of fatal accidents and terroristic incidents. PTSD is like any other pain... You deal with it, or let someone tell you how to deal with it. Either way, the pain remains.
Absolutely, I am agoraphobic, have panic disorder, and PTSD,
It is not from being weak but from having to be strong for to long.
It is not from being weak but from having to be strong for to long.
That has to be one of the best descriptions I've heard for a good % of the deep PTSD cases. Everyone has a breaking point. Some find a soft one first, while some find a hard break. The soft one, IMO, is what comes to settle into PTSD.