@ nugget ..... 5th sfg - macsog .... most of what we did still off the books not to mention violated just about every convention there was ..... we didnt play nice with charlie ...... charlie had standing bounty for all of us if we got captured ...... we also had highest casualty rate of all units in vietnam and highest rate of cmh awards ..... mostly posthumous ..... so yes quite familiar with the brutality that happens in war ......
also spent time cambodia during pol pots regime helping the yards against him ...... he outdid everyone before him for pure brutality ........ though today from all accounts IS making pol pot look like an amatuer when it comes to brutality .....
After got barred from v.a for being " too dangerous " because of my p.t.s.d ....... didnt bother figured better to learn lessons from the experiences look forward and move on with life ....... went and worked at improving myself and tried to make up for what once was ..... and once did ....... unfortuneatly still have my darkside though do try to keep it under control ......
Besides..... did ok and have a comfortable semi-retirement so trying enjoy life now ....... also would have to go back to states to file ....... no thanks not need molested by tsa nor to put up with the idiocy over there that would have to endure while the process ran its course ......
The Japanese interned in U.S. Camps were paid, under Ronald Reagan, back in 1988.
In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.
To mark the 25th anniversary of its passage, the Civil Liberties Act was put on display at the National Archives alongside the original Executive Order 9066, which authorized the internment. For senior curator Bruce Bustard, it was a powerful juxtaposition of the journey from a wrong to a right.
True also with Vietnam and bad things. There are still some people in a prison in Kansas from acts in that war...if I'm not mistaken. Our side is bad at covering up sometimes, but also tends to prosecute when a wrong gets into the open. More so in recent conflicts, of course.
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Interesting ...... wasnt aware of that ...... in 88 was attending tcm ( traditional chinese medicine ) course in beijing ....... had hands full studying as was tough course ......
Yep.... theyll be make big rocks to little rocks till they die ..... knew two that spent their last days there after getting tried and convicted for what they did ( personally thought they shouldve been executed for what they did ...... )
Indeed... I came across a non-fiction audio book years ago while I was trucking and it was unabridged, so I figured it would be an interesting war book.
It was focused around one of the surviving members of the "Tiger Teams" formed in the FFZ's. I'll never question the idea that true evil showed it's face in that war too..and on both sides. No question. Some wore black jammies..and sadly..some wore green or tiger stripe.
The secret in propaganda is that when you demonize, you dehumanize; when you dehumanize, it allows you to kill your enemy and no longer feel guilty about it." Is an old thought for leaders of men in a war setting. Nazi's, Gooks, Japs, ragheads, etc etc are all a forms of this propaganda.
On a more personal level look at two guys/girls squaring off to fight. The monkey dance is usually preceded with derogatory name calling and then physical events follow after a usual push or shove like an ape picking up a branch and beating the ground to show dominance .. Just the way some (most) humans are wired.
Slavery, kids kidnapped for work in the sex field, Beheadings much closer to home than ISIS (think Mexico for starters)and killings in very inventive ways are now and have been going on since the first tribe wanted something from another tribe and the answer was no.
The old saying of rape, pillage, and plunder, is alive and well even in civilized countries... only there they call it government and is more low key unless it happens to you.
Born there ..... after parents and I released from the internment camp returned to japan ..... then got case of stupid returned to u.s went into military ...... hold dual citizenship though havent used my u.s one in decades..... far less hassle ..... less embaressment and safer using my japanese passport when travel ......
I want to toss something out for context and perspective with all this.
This isn't the first story I've found and written about that covers the true horrors of Imperial Japan during the war years. It isn't that simple though, and I know that, as something to give perspective in looking at history.
A lot of things led to that, including...and not LEAST of which...how Japan was being squeezed and cut off from petroleum, rubber and lubricant supplies from multiple directions, until they went full offensive. The box they were being put in would have seen modern Japan progress more like the Phillippines or Indonesia for technology and future leadership with anything related to international position.
i.e...In my understanding of history, Japan was backed into a very serious corner, at the same time or before they really went Total War in all directions. The U.S. was instrumental in building that box, along with Britain and others in the years before the full outbreak of World War. That was wrong, with or without hindsight...and did as much to lead to the Pacific side of the war, as anything else.
I figured that was important to add, especially since I tend to take a very different view of other war time actions (including the Atomic bombs) than modern political correctness would suggest. With or without those issues.....it was still a situation where no one had a true white hat. If not horrible during the war (and wow..was that a war where that was a relative term) then most world powers had hands in what directly led to it.