ATLANTA (AP) — U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said he plans to unveil new Justice Department guidance in the coming days aimed at ending racial profiling and ensuring fair and effective policing.
Holder was to announce the plan in a speech Monday at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta. The Associated Press and other news outlets received advance copies.
Post by sheepslayer on Dec 1, 2014 20:30:44 GMT -6
This may be considered racist, but there are times racial profiling is necessary. If we are told that an Arab-looking man will try to blow up a plane, isn't it wise to pull Arab-looking people out of line at the airports and question them?
I'm all for equal protection and application of the laws, but sometimes common sense has to come in to play here.
This may be considered racist, but there are times racial profiling is necessary. If we are told that an Arab-looking man will try to blow up a plane, isn't it wise to pull Arab-looking people out of line at the airports and question them?
As a six foot tall Norwegian, I can assure you that they do not solely pull Arab-looking people out of line at the airports. They habitually drag me out of line for a pat-down, to the point of ridiculousness.
Cause six foot tall Norwegians are known for blowing up airplanes.
But by patting me down every time I fly, they demonstrate that they aren't just picking on the guys that do blow up airplanes.
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This may be considered racist, but there are times racial profiling is necessary. If we are told that an Arab-looking man will try to blow up a plane, isn't it wise to pull Arab-looking people out of line at the airports and question them?
I'm all for equal protection and application of the laws, but sometimes common sense has to come in to play here.
This IS Washington DC we're talking about. Common Sense has already turned off the lights and closed the door behind herself on her way out of there.
I'm all for racial profiling... or age profiling... or height profiling.... or economic status profiling... or eye color profiling... or whatever else it takes to catch the criminals and leave the innocent be.
As a six foot tall Norwegian, I can assure you that they do not solely pull Arab-looking people out of line at the airports. They habitually drag me out of line for a pat-down, to the point of ridiculousness.
Cause six foot tall Norwegians are known for blowing up airplanes.
But by patting me down every time I fly, they demonstrate that they aren't just picking on the guys that do blow up airplanes.
Nah - I've see your picture. You just look shifty and scary. I mean, seriously, you KNOW how those white guys been holding everyone else down for millennia and - don't look now, here comes one through the screening line! No, don't look at him - just act casual... Wait 'till he gets up here, but get them rubber gloves ready...
Racial profiling.. (sigh) yeah.... Lets totally ignore the obvious, ditch common sense and go by some fanciful but foolish idea of what bad guys are "supposed" to look like.
It may get me some angry responses...but I'm going to say something many won't like or perhaps even believe for all the propaganda we're force fed every day.
Racial Profiling WORKS. No...Not as a primary tool to wield as a weapon. That is RACIST profiling, not racial.
Racial profiling is finding a car full of white yuppie boys down in the lower bronx at 3am, looking a bit lost and strung out. An intelligent cop would look at that...consider the time, race which doesn't fit the scene, and appearance of the bunch as a combined thing..and say "Hey! I'll just bet those are dopers looking for a fix and not finding it!". I'll bet the cop stands a better than 50% chance of being correct too.
Likewise, if a beat up old chevy with poorly dressed and unkempt black boys is cruising the streets of Toluca Lake (makes Beverly Hills look like the 'Commoner Section' of the area), and they're rolling the streets at the same 3am? A politically correct cop will look, see it isn't a race he's allowed to touch without probable cause that screams from a block away...and let a likely car load of burglars go on. The intelligent cop will look at that, see the same as the white boys above and for the same reasons of 'this don't fit'...and figure "Hey! Maybe that recent rash of burglaries and this car totally out of place and cruising for who knows what...have a connection??".
Would race have made the same two cars suspicious if the first one was black in a black neighborhood and the second one was white in a white neighborhood? YES... They WOULD have..because race isn't the ONLY factor I described for both....but the race added as a big piece that just doesn't fit, fast removes any other 'legitimate' reason a car load of youth with nothing apparently better to do...is way out of their comfort zone, in both cases, and looking as lost as they would.
It's like the airports...Do we want to racial profile? HELL NO.. Not as a *PRIMARY* tool. That is basically telling Al Qaeda or ISIS "Insure NO ONE you send meets these features for profile and you shall succeed!". However....if we have a nervous and sketchy looking 20 something who could double for a stand-in to the latest Middle Eastern terror movie and he's standing next to an 80 year old grandma from Kansas? The P.C. agent will take Grandma and know he did well by letting political correctness dictate security. An intelligent agent will take the nervous, sketchy appearance WITH the fact the vast majority of the worlds currently active terrorists fit his general description...and Granny will get another day without being felt up and put down while Junior gets a side chat.
Eric Holder is a Politician and an unusually scummy one at that. He's no cop. We *NEED* a cop in that post or someone with similar EXPERIENCE (like the lady they are looking at to replace him) which means they aren't "on the job training" like so many others this President chooses, seem to end up. America is going down the crapper with a BIG FLUSH based on "On the job training" when we need consummate professionals more now than we have in years.
If I come across my vehicle that has been smashed to pieces with a heavy tool and I see a person breathing heavy, holding a sledge hammer, then he will be profiled.
It's like the airports...Do we want to racial profile? HELL NO.. Not as a *PRIMARY* tool. That is basically telling Al Qaeda or ISIS "Insure NO ONE you send meets these features for profile and you shall succeed!".
DING DING DING! We have a winner!
When I was in NC, there was a huge blowup over a bunch of white guys - I mean seriously pale white guys that looked more like Klansmen - who went all jihad on our asses.
Similarly, it's known that AQ did some heavy recruiting in Eastern Europe for terrorists who didn't LOOK like terrorists. I think the problem with those was the "furrin accents" causing suspicion. You can't come out of 50 years of Cold War and not have that slavic accent raise some eyebrows. It will take another generation for that to kick in - assuming we can manage to avoid yet another Cold War, the prospects of which avoidance aren't looking good.
Here is something I've figured out over time - NO ONE is more dangerous than a recent religious convert. You get a white guy born and bred in the good ol' USA, convert him to Islam and POOF! Instant terrorist material. You just have to cut it right and sew it together proper. Now, that doesn't make him a terrorist instantly, but the chances of that happening are VASTLY improved.
The reasons for that are numerous. That guy was looking for something when he converted. There was something missing in his world, and he thinks he's found the cure for that deficiency He will defend that cure at all risks. Most of the time, it seems that he was lacking "acceptance" or something like that. If a radical mosque can rope him in, provide him with a context and framework to exist in, provide the "Acceptance" he is lacking, make him feel as if he has a place in that world, they can shape his every move after that. Gangs employ the same recruitment strategy.
Prison converts are the worst - most of them already have a background of violence to build upon and direct or provide focus for. Islam is HEAVILY recruiting in prisons these days. Look up "Jamaat ul Fuqra". Those folks are almost entirely prison converts to Sheikh Gilani's brand of Islam.
As I recall - and I may be wrong about this - those lilly white jihadists in NC were prison converts, but not Jamaat ul Fuqra.
I'm going to Bump your thread,,, Obama and his Lap Dog Holder were not Happy with the Constitutionally Approved Decision made today By A Court Approved Grand Jury in New York Today. ( No one said anything when O J Simpson went free with Nichols Murder ) But,,, That would have been Racist, she was White after all,,, Not Worth The Bother.
So, Obama's not Happy another Grand Jury, heard the evidence and didn't see a need to convict. It's no wonder Our Nation is Torn Apart, We allows illegals to just stay and enjoy everything our Fathers, Son's and Daughter's have Died for and he see's the KKK behind every Police Mens / Womens Badge.
DOJ to open criminal civil rights investigation into Eric Garner's death
The Justice Department will open a criminal civil rights investigation into the death of Eric Garner, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Wednesday evening.
The announcement follows the news that a grand jury in New York declined to return any charges against the New York City police officer who used a chokehold on Garner, who died after the confrontation.
Holder promised "an independent, thorough, fair and expeditious" investigation. Additionally, he said, the Justice Department will conduct a complete review of the material gathered during the local investigation into Garner's death. Holder said he spoke with Garner's widow, President Obama, and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio earlier in the day to inform them of the Justice Department's next moves.
Garner's death was a tragedy, Holder said. "All lives must be valued -- all lives," he added.
So, you worthless POS, if every life is so damn Valuable,,,, Why aren't you and your Thugs investigating the Blacks the killed the poor WHITE guy with a Hammer, Yes, Beat him to Death,,,,,, OH,,,, He's WHITE!
I might disagree with you on the New York case. Whatever the facts may be...and I think they support more than a secret look by a GJ, I think they are trying to charge the fire hoses before a 5 alarm fire breaks out with this Federal case.
It could be..they realize...REAL riots and not neighborhood or borough riots..but city-wide ones in New York City wouldn't be protest. It would be fatalities. Likely, a lot of 'em by the end of it. Over 8 million people live there and there have been a string of "OOOOPS" by the NYPD (including cops shooting innocent bystanders in the rush to shoot bad guys) that have a % of the people already something past unhappy.
This was a really ugly case, IMO. Nothing that guy did warranted killing him....or handling him in a way which showed reckless disregard for the possibility of serious injury.
Well my furry friend this Sheriff says it all and he's correct.
Attorney General Eric Holder is guilty of race-bait tactics in his response to Ferguson, said Milwaukee’s widely quoted and tough-talking black sheriff, David Clarke, in a recent nationally televised interview.
“He comes out with these scurrilous claims that law enforcement officers hit the streets every day with some nefarious intent in their heart to deny people their constitutional civil rights and indiscriminately just shoot black males as if it were some sort of sport,” Sheriff Clarke said in an interview on “The Kelly File” on Fox News.
Taking the Ferguson riots as cause to issue new federal guidelines against racial profiling is an over-the-top reaction to Ferguson, Sheriff Clarke said, adding that Mr. Holder’s actions have “disgusted” him.
Yes, well he Disgusts me Too,,,,,He and Obama are Racist Shits.
“He knows how due process works,” Sheriff Clarke said, Newsmax reported. “He knows what justice is. He claims he wants justice for all, but apparently he doesn’t want justice for police officers.”
Sheriff Clarke also added that Mr. Holder left “a sour taste in the mouths of all law enforcement officers” by suggesting that racial bias was a big part of modern day policing, Newsmax reported.
Sheriff Clarke made the statements in context of discussing the fallout from the grand jury’s decision not to indict Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson in the Aug. 9 shooting death of teen Michael Brown. The tough-on-crime sheriff also criticized the Congressional Black Caucus, and decried members’ claim that the grand jury determination only proved that “black lives don’t matter” in the United States, and rebuked the White House for fueling racial animosity, Newsmax reported.
“That [race] wound has been opened again, and some of it is because of the divisive politics that the White House has been playing,” Sheriff Clarke said, Fox News reported.