Demonic Magic

As an old retired magician who never did it professionally but loved it as a hobby and did a few children shows because I love seeing the looks on the children's faces, *picking up chics in the bar* I can assure you it isn't that!

First off, I was an avid close up magician, versus those most of you see on tv as being "stage magicians". In other words, if I screwed up with my slight of hand routine, you pretty much had me nailed? Stage magicians spend way more money for their props and don't need to use their hands to the extent a close up magician does.

Also, Chris Angel? Is an insult to magicians! He uses camera's and editing to make his illusions look real.

I can see how you as a laymen would see it that way, but as an avid amateur who took the oath to not divulge the secrets, just as I took the oath to uphold the Constitution when I joined the military, can you not see how those like the "masked magician" are just pissed off has beens who because they weren't successful got pissed off and decided to make money by divulging the secrets they most likely took an oath to protect?

I am not saying I do not actually believe in "real magic" versus an entertainer who performs "illusions", but I just don't see anyone with "REAL" abilities to perform magic to do it on a stage for entertainment purposes.

Apr 20, 2015 18:19:15 GMT -6 brotherman said:

emotionallyincorrect,

You must understand that the way this theory is supposed to work, is that the "magician" does not have magic powers rather it is a demon that manipulates objects and assists with its demonic power. Now don't get me wrong here, just because I don't know how a trick works doesn't mean I go on a hinge here and say demons I will suggest though that some of these tricks are pretty wild and apparently has the effect of making people think that their are other forces at work. If this happens which it does happen it still reinforces the idea that performing some of these tricks question peoples faiths in this respect it is working if this is its intended purpose. Why do they perform tricks to mock the "miracles" of Christs time? Again it is to make Jesus look like a lowly magician etc etc 

Let me tell ya something! I know quite a bit about magic from my past. I have seen some tricks that have been revised and changed that totally blew my mind lately!

What is sad?

I can go on Youtube if I know the name of the trick and find some pathetic pissed of magician wannabee telling the whole world how it is done!

I believe in ghosts, UFO's and even though I haven't directly experienced either of them to a point to prove they exist, I still believe in another dimension that is unknown to man but known to those who control us?

Magic though? As much as I want to believe in it, I just can't see it as even being possible until the populous get smart enough to NOT believe in government lies.

Magicians are creators of illusions. Nothing magical, or demonic about what they do. If you find one that does have those powers? I want 1 hour with that person!

You have heard of Satan right? How he is so willing to devour the souls of Christians?

Well? I call BS on that too! As an ex Christian I got so pissed off at the hypocrisy of those telling me of my sins while watching them openly sin, I prayed to Satan to give me power in exchange for my soul! Guess what happened? NOTHING!

Trust me my friend, I have taken life and what I have been told it meant in the name of religion AND as a law abiding citizen believing in civilization and society and you know what? Being 52 years old?? It is all bullshit! There is no magic, there is no American dream! Being a good law abiding citizen means nothing more than being obedient to the rules that whatever society in charge deems to be appropriate!

I truly welcome a righteous magician/warlock/witch to change the corruption eating away at this world, but as much as I want to believe? I think it is all a stutter device. In other words, it pulls the responsibility of those of us who are living to fight for our freedom and gives us false hope that some magical creature or God will save us from our lack of ability to be brave enough to fight for what we call freedom?

Sorry, I know I went way off on a tangent there, but I think it fits?

Apr 20, 2015 18:56:31 GMT -6 brotherman said:

emotionallyincorrect,

Of course it fits, you have to remember I am the devils advocate here, my own personal views and beliefs i am trying to keep out of this as to maybe help me understand something wholly from another point of view. I again will say, that if the whole world believes the way you do and that it is all BS then the devil or the demons have been doing their job successfully. The purpose of the demons striking deals with certain people is exactly that to undermine peoples beliefs in God and all that. Apparently they extend to not just magicians but also actors and musicians as well. For the sake of this thread though I'm just sticking to magicians. 

Love that!

I am glad you can recognize I am only speaking from my experiences in my 52 years of life and not claiming to be an expert! I don't believe shit I have read from a book! I do believe in what I have experienced in life though, and sharing it with others is important to me.