I was never able to find any group of critters reported
who were NOT in cahoots with the globalists toward setting up the global government.
And, I was never able to find any group of critters that did not--sooner or later--lie--to their abductees and to the government types working with them.
It was not just that such information about clearly 'good guys' was scarce--there was NONE.
I think it is wise to remember that satan and his crew of fallen angels . . . 1/3 of the original number . . . have had many many thousands of years to set up allllll manner of deceptions and hoaxes to coerce the world into his goals and schemes.
Yes, that is so very true
But with all due respect, the down side to that is not all people are Christians and so their beliefs may lie elsewhere and not in line with Guy Malone's panel of experts or Churches in general
Also many beliefs may vary according to their culture, what region of the world they are from
Others may believe that there is more to this Universe other than our Godly entities
Post by Mystic Wanderer on Nov 17, 2014 21:49:19 GMT -6
My vote is 3, 9, and 13.
But, as I said already, this cannot be tallied correctly because this doesn't apply to ALL ETs. They are as diverse as the human race when it comes to good vs. evil.
I think it is wise to remember that satan and his crew of fallen angels . . . 1/3 of the original number . . . have had many many thousands of years to set up allllll manner of deceptions and hoaxes to coerce the world into his goals and schemes.
Yes, that is so very true
But with all due respect, the down side to that is not all people are Christians and so their beliefs may lie elsewhere and not in line with Guy Malone's panel of experts or Churches in general
Also many beliefs may vary according to their culture, what region of the world they are from
Others may believe that there is more to this Universe other than our Godly entities
I think I understand your perspective.
On those scores, mine is . . .
1. It doesn't matter eternally near so much what our BELIEFS are
vs
what REALITY IS!
2. Sooner or later, REALITY is what catches up with all of us . . . affirmingly or like a 2 X 4 up-side the head.
3. I'm utterly convinced that when an individual "created {somehow} in God's 'image' "
EARNESTLY, PERSISTENTLY, GENUINELY, DOGGEDLY, SEEKS GOD--THAT, AS GOD SAID--HE SHALL BE FOUND.
4. It does NOT work, however, to demand that God conform to our notions of Him and reality.
5. He wouldn't be a very big God, then!
6. These issues are things that I've spent enormous time over at least 57 years thinking about and studying as best I could . . . extensively . . . in my 'spare' time. My convictions are not idle thoughts nor transitory musings resulting from an extra spicy taco. Many have come through a LOT of 'blood, sweat and tears.' . . . sometimes . . . rather literally.
7. Many of these convictions have been tested in the fiery furnaces of life and survived the tests better than I often have survived, myself.
8. e.g. the Biblical model has described most accurately of ANY source I know of:
--me in all my strengths and weaknesses --mankind --life in all its glories and challenges --society --others --the enemy --the past that's important to my future --the future that's important to my eternity.
I wandered through a lot of other perspectives. None of them held much water. None of them were very durable nor very comprehensive in any lastingly convincing way.
All the more so about the UFO critters and what they are up to in this BIBLICAL END TIMES ERA . . . that is following the Biblical script to the letter.
But, as I said already, this cannot be tallied correctly because this doesn't apply to ALL ETs. They are as diverse as the human race when it comes to good vs. evil.
Ahhhhhh . . . what is your EVIDENCE that this cannot apply to all purported ET's that we have to do with in our era?
But, as I said already, this cannot be tallied correctly because this doesn't apply to ALL ETs. They are as diverse as the human race when it comes to good vs. evil.
You know what the problem with #13 would be?
13. ET'S ARE HERE TO SAVE US & EARTH FROM OURSELVES
TPTB would shoot first and then ask questions later!!
Post by Mystic Wanderer on Nov 17, 2014 22:23:09 GMT -6
Evidence?
Well, I only have the same as you... what I've heard on videos from witnesses, a personal friend that talks with them every day, messages they send to others who have shared it on You Tube, messages in dreams, etc.
What "Evidence" do you have that they're ALL bad, other than the same type information medium I have?
13. ET'S ARE HERE TO SAVE US & EARTH FROM OURSELVES
TPTB would shoot first and then ask questions later!!
UNLESS . . . the SCRIPT for millenia regarding our era has been and remains:
1. for the critters to descend more and more overtly over time . . .
2. and at a well prepared for and constructed time after much mass brain washing by the media . . .
3. to appear WITH the powers that be insisting that our only hope for survival as a species and as a planet is to form a one world government and a one world religion
4. backed up by dramatic technological and dark 'spiritual' 'miracles.'
5. An alternate scenario often mentioned has been for one 'race' of critters to play the role of attackers and another the protectors of mankind and the planet . . . with the same result as 3. above . . . the attacking seen as terrifying the populace into submission.
5.1 Some believe WW III will be scheduled somehow in concert with such scenarios--with the critters appearing in the middle of it or at the end of it declaring that WWIII was another 'last' demonstration of how urgently THEIR solution was REQUIRED.
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Well, I only have the same as you... what I've heard on videos from witnesses, a personal friend that talks with them every day, messages they send to others who have shared it on You Tube, messages in dreams, etc.
To my awareness and knowledge . . .
What you are depending on as evidence is . . . essentially . . .
1. --entities who CLAIM to come from distant star systems and planets. --some claiming to have taken humans there and back to verify such.
Yet . . . considering all their 'technological' expertise and a list of other factors, there is NO truly verifiable way to determine if they truly are from such distant orbs around distant stars, or not. Ditto for the purported trips to such with humans.
The idea that we have the MEANS to verify such IS ABSURD.
Such is taken, imho, as a matter of FAITH!
I believe that faith is born out of enormous tons of
A) WISHFUL THINKING B) REBELLION against believing God's testimonies about Himself and about reality. . . . making humans ripe for any other fool notion that comes along, offered from the pit of hell.
2. A number of whistle-blowers e.g. French Scientist Jacques Vallee who studied the issue for 10 years with high security clearances . . . concluded that the critters
A) ARE SPIRITUAL entities from a SPIRITUAL DIMENSION.
He was the French scientist depicted in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS.
B) ARE evil in their goals and intent.
I don't recall how starkly Dr Vallee has stated that they are evil in their goals and intent. You have to read between the lines on some of his convictions and assertions.
Other whistle-blowers have been more emphatic about that.
Even UK expert Timothy Good--whom I've talked to at some length face to face--has come to be concerned about the likelihood of their being evil with evil intent.
3. The evidence from the literature of our era and particularly more ancient history is rather conclusive. I don't think any fair minded person who examines the evidence in EXO-VATICANA can mount any serious contrary argument. The piles of proof are just far too extensive.
What "Evidence" do you have that they're ALL bad, other than the same type information medium I have?
See above.
Even as a sociologist and psychologist I have to note long observations that the mass brainwashing by the media--news, universities, Hollyweed, etc. etc. etc. has been incredibly organized and incredibly extensive TOWARD the warm fuzzy helpful ET memes--without a shred of evidence to support that as REALITY.
. . . and tons of hard bloody evidence to the contrary.
@airen,From My Research, I was Never Able to Find Proof of GOD! You can say the same thing About GOD! I do believe my Half Dozen Security Clearance were much Higher than your's.
Who has Absolute Proof of a GOD! We were created in Whose Image? I say we were created in Their image to fulfill the needs of a Slave for the time being as needed.
Are their UFO's? YES! The question is, are they their or our's?
Have you seen GOD? Has any one seen GOD? Who Talks to GOD? Who Hears GOD Talk To them? The idea that we have the MEANS to verify such IS ABSURD. It's all based on Faith. Gee,,,, the same as the belief in UFO's or Other Intelligence out there.
My Wife has seen two UFO's and I've seen one USO and I can Say for a Fact, that was not OURS!