Listening to those jokers only thing to break away will be your bank account ....... do you really think that if they had such tech theyd be wasting time with the primitives on this backwater rock ?
If had the tech would be long gone and not look back at this backwater rock and its primitives ....... or enslave the lot of the primitives mwahahahahaha ........
Sorry but theres no skyfairy and no benevolent ets to come down and save humanity ( and at this point humanity for most part not worth saving ) ........ humans need to grow up and sort their own messes ......
Daitengu, Some times I have to agree with you,,,,, You need to be very, very careful. There are some very Passionate people out there on this subject and Mystic is one of them,,,, Lucky For Us,,, she Doesn't Charge!
True ........ though do wish she learn to find more reliable sources of info on things ......... makes it difficult to get overall picture of situation when gotta get new shovel every five minutes ........
Besides with ninurta busy someone gotta keep mystic on her toes hehe she'd get bored if we all bought the story .......
Just hate see people get suckered by the con artists out there ....... and in ufology theres alot of those .......
Always find mystics threads interesting and do try not to be too mean ........
If I were to write up sitreps using less than reliable sources would be out of work ....... ( well fob off writing them I hate paperwork ...... )
Erm ...... hope making sense ....... not drank enough yet today .........
I look at it this way, and I try and keep a simple way of viewing all of this.
You...know nothing, as 1st hand knowledge.
I....know nothing, as 1st hand knowledge.
Sorry, Mr. Bunny, but that's where you are wrong. I have had many personal experiences with things I have not discussed here on HH, which does give me 1st hand knowledge.
I wasn't aware of the German source having such a bad reputation.
I understand one's reluctance to believe anything coming from a non-reputable source, but every now and then they actually do print some true stories. Maybe it's the only place some of these people can get to publish their story because of it seeming to be so "far out" there; I don't know. But, I have found stories in the past in the National Enquirer that were true, as discovered later from other sources with a better reputation.
That's one reason I say I make up my own mind as to the truth behind the story, without allowing the "medium" of where it was published to influence my final analysis.
I do see what you're saying, though, coming from someone with a totally skeptical view. I think it is just that it's much easier for me to believe some things that others find to be unbelievable because of my past experiences.
This may cause us to butt heads at times, but if more people will do the research based on the story, and not the source of the story, they may discover some hidden truths to connect some dots for themselves.
Daitengu, in case you missed my revised reply, I have posted it above. Please take it into consideration for future reference in understanding where I'm coming from.
Here is a transcript from the last show of Cosmic Disclosure. Corey states that we have space portals all over the Earth that have been here since ancient times, and these portals are used to visit other planets, solar systems, or galaxies, all over the entire universe(s). Everything is connected via nodes and star gates that are attached to a galactic/universal web. Every planet, star, has an "address code" that is entered at the star gate to take you to wherever you want to go.
Okay. Welcome to another episode of Cosmic Disclosure. I'm here with a remarkable insider, Corey Goode, who is helping me to verify information that I've collected from a variety of insiders who have worked in highly classified programs over the years. And there has always been this little something where actually it turned out to be a big something where these people knew more than they wanted to tell me. I don't know if it was secrecy or fear or exactly what held them back, but you could just never get all the answers that you were really looking for. And it was so frustrating. With Corey, there is now an Alliance within this Secret Space Program (SSP) that wants us to have the truth, that wants to reveal their technology to us here on Earth and has specifically asked him to work with me, to come forward and to bring you the information that can help us to understand what's really been going on this whole time completely outside what almost anybody knew – even the people who were the most dedicated UFO researchers in this field. In this episode we're going to be talking specifically about portals and I'm going to throw some things at Corey that I've heard from other insiders and see how our data lines up. I'm not putting any words in his mouth, but because I have collected a lot of stuff on this, I want to see how all of these threads intertwine. So, Corey, welcome back to the show.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
DW: I want to mention, first of all, working with the insider, Henry Deacon, and who I spoke with extensively - at least 80 hours of very in depth insider-type conversation – one of the things he told me which can help start this off is he said that there are ancient stargates or portal systems as well as modern portal systems. I'm wondering if you're familiar with that delineation?
CG: Yes.
DW: Okay. Before I go blabbing on about what I already know, you're the focus of this show. Can you explain for us the difference between an ancient portal and a modern portal in terms of what it's like, what does it do, how do they function, etc.?
CG: There are the natural portal systems that are a part of the known universe. We call it the Cosmic Web.
DW: Okay.
CG: And the ancient portal systems and the current era portal systems use the, or exploit, these natural Cosmic Web portal system to travel from point to point. The ancient portal systems... and there are several ancient portal systems that are left behind by several ancient groups that have been found on Earth. They vary in their sophistication. Some of them do very short point-to-point jumps to reach... Let's say you want to reach a planet or solar system that is in... They call them 'hops'. If there's, let's say 10 solar systems between where you want to go, then you may have to make three or four hops to get to that desired destination.
DW: This is in the ancient system?
CG: In the ancient system. That's also in the beginning of our current era system - how it worked as well as we were developing it.
DW: Could you just briefly explain for us what you would experience in a hop? Do you have to walk from one place to another once you get there or are you in a craft? How would this work?
CG: Well you could travel there in a craft or walk into one of the bubbles that I was telling you about before. Or you could drive into one.
DW: So the bubble is at the beginning of your journey when you're on Earth. How does the hopping take place? Do you land on a planet or do you land in space? I'm not really understanding the hop.
CG: The ancient systems . . . these are physical, ancient physical devices. And there's another ancient physical device just like in the show Stargate that are spread out across many solar systems.
DW: And when you say, 'Just like Stargate', you mean it's shaped like a ring?
CG: There have been some that look very similar – shaped like a ring, but the one that I saw was – what do they call them 'ziggurats' or they look . . .
DW: Like a step pyramid?
CG: . . . like a step pyramid. They come up three different directions and like a step going . . . in steps up in a pyramid shape.
DW: Three different directions like a triangle?
CG: I mean four different directions. (Okay.) And then the portal would open at the top (Wow!) and it was flat on top.
DW: And would it have stairs going up.
CG: Stairs going up to the flat area.
DW: Would this be an Earth-like place where you've got trees, grass and blue sky and clouds?
CG: These have been . . . Usually they've had to . . . These have been dug up. They were buried.
DW: On other planets?
CG: Yeah, well they've been buried here.
DW: Oh. They've been buried on Earth.
CG: Yeah. (DW: Okay.) They've been buried here. Wars have been fought over them. Finding them and knowing how to use them is a totally different thing. They worked on a - just like in the TV show Stargate – they worked on an addressing system. It was much like the Mac address or the IP address on computer systems.
DW: That's exactly what my contact, Daniel, had said. In fact, he gave me the complete numerical address of the Earth as a . . . There was a series of single digits – three single digits - that could be anywhere between 1 and 9. Then there's a series of three digits that are between 1 and 99. And then the last number can be between 1 and 999 depending on what you need it for.
CG: Um, okay.
DW: And I've never leaked the whole sequence, but I have leaked that Earth's number apparently was 606 and that Mars was 605. That's the last three digits of the address.
CG: Okay. And I didn't know that. (Okay.) But just for those who are out there, a Mac address is . . . in a computer network is a machine's hardware address. And an IP address is the Internet Protocol address for when you're connected to the Internet. There's four octets that identify a subnet mask and then your network and then your computer address. So it's kind of like a large network.
DW: Now, Daniel had told me that almost any number you dial in is going to take you somewhere, because there's a great amount of . . . Like all the addresses are used and he had said that there's some kind of ancient race that comes along and puts one of these ancient gates on a planet and that the planet has one central gate. And that when you gate into that particular number address, it will route you to that particular stargate on that planet. And it seems like these . . . the beings that do this will put a stargate on a planet once it starts to have intelligent life so that they can eventually find it and be able to travel. Does that line up with anything that you heard?
CG: I heard that there were two gates and that, like I said, there were several different ages of these ancient gates going all the way back to the ancient builder race.
DW: That makes sense because when you described the ancient builder race before, you said that they had stone chairs or stone sarcophagi or stone altars or stone slabs, which consistently have very advanced time and space distortion and warping capability and that they were very sought after by the ETs in our solar system because of that.
CG: And there were other gate systems that have been found on the Earth that have been much younger and look differently, but pretty much were reverse engineered or use the same technology of addressing as the most ancient gate travel.
DW: So these addresses, I was told . . .
CG: Now you said, “Any number”. Any random number you put in?
DW: Well, if you dial in . . . I don't know how much farther it goes up above 606.
CG: I'm sure it works a lot like a . . . Like with IP addresses, you have a subnet mask, which identifies a network, which might identify galaxy, solar system and then planet within the solar system.
DW: He said it was something like that except that there's sort of a three dimensional sacred geometry, which I assume is the dodecahedron shape is used to bust out areas into quadrants that are in units of 10.
CG: And that matches for . . . before we were able to start really understanding how to use a lot of these gates, we had to have a hyper-dimensional or multi- . . . I think it was a hyper-dimensional mathematics model handed to us by an ET group.
DW: Right. So yeah, basically you have these step-down versions of these quadrants of 10. So if the first digit is let's say 5, that means you're in the 5th quadrant of that 10-unit section, and then the next one you're going to narrow it down in that region by another factor of 10, etc., etc.
CG: It works very similar to like a computer network (Right.) or an Internet.
DW: The other thing that he said was that there are apparently hyper-advanced angelic or ET groups monitoring this system so that if a given planet of people graduate or ascend, or otherwise, leave their planet, that that gate address is then recycled and given to another group where that planet is now evolving. So, in other words, let's say, number 540 is used up – that planet evolves or graduates – 540 will now be relocated somewhere else and given to a new group. So there is some kind of intelligence, he said, that's behind the . . . when you get to the final three-digit number.
CG: That's new to me.
DW: Okay. The insider Jacob, who I spoke to, said that even in ancient times it was very highly kept secret by the Celts and Druids and stuff like this, but that they had a technology of two permanent magnets that were on something like a tuning fork kind of thing, and that the magnets would pull together harder or push away more when you go near a portal . . . that just walking through the woods and that they hold this out and that's how they would try to find them. Did you ever encounter anything like that?
CG: I've heard about that same instrument and also that same instrument being used for mapping out the ley lines and certain energetic points on the Earth.
DW: Wow. Do you know enough about it that we could maybe try to replicate it? Is there a specific type of magnet that's required or do you have any specifics on it?
CG: No. I just basically heard what you've described.
DW: Well, that's mind-blowing, because we've never talked about that before. So clearly, there's some sort of magnetic flux in a portal area.
CG: Oh, yeah. NASA recently released that our sun has a basically a portal or a magnetic filament connection to every planet in our solar system, and anything that has enough mass to cause a gravitational pull or a torsion in our space-time is going to create a magnetic and gravitational relationship with the host sun. And these filaments that they are just now releasing – these filaments are the portals.
DW: Right.
CG: And they are strong electromagnetic filaments.
DW: But if people don't include the torsion component, they're not going to understand how this works. (Right.) So it's an electromagnetic tube that also has a strong torsion field and would act like a traversable wormhole.
CG: Right. And it's happening within the torsion field of each solar system. The galaxy is a giant torsion field. All of the stars are constantly moving around the center of the galaxy and stars closer in are moving at a slightly different speed. And the magnetic relationships are always changing. These filament relationships are always changing between each star.
DW: Right. It's just like electricity. Electricity takes the path of least resistance. And if you want to travel to a star that's on the other side of the center of the galaxy, you have to wait or calculate just the right time to travel, because if you don't, if you begin your travel and this star has just changed its position and the electrical field, or the electrical connection, changes to another star – the path of least resistance – you're going to find yourself in a different sol system.
DW: Like a short circuit.
CG: It's the path of least resistance. It changes. It's a very complicated. And the further you go, the more complicated the calculation is.
DW: So we were starting out by talking about ancient vs. modern portal technology. I'll just toss in something else that I heard, and I want to hear if this goes with what you're saying. Henry Deacon had told me that the ancient system involves a sort of a ride or a subjective experience that can be extremely jarring. You can come out the other side at best vomiting and very disoriented and at worst completely mentally insane and irreversibly damaged by it. And he had said that people would have to study and really get advanced in their consciousness capability to be able to use these portals safely.
CG: And also there was a chemical that was used – shots. People were given shots to help them with these effects. And this was corrected . . . they learned how to use these ancient gates more efficiently when they learned how to make the calculations better. So this became less of a problem. But in the beginning, this kind of travel from point-to-point within our solar system was bad enough, but traveling from star to star was really not a good idea for a person. Even after we had developed it to a point where we were able to travel from planet to planet in our solar system, and negate the physical effects, it took awhile for them to get the calculations right and to fine tune traveling these ancient portal systems to travel to other star systems without these major ill effects.
DW: In the aftermath of the Philadelphia Experiment, there are reports of a bar fight breaking out in Norfolk, Virginia, where these guys were fighting each other and punching each other and when they became angry, (DW: Going out of phase.) they became invisible, and that they had these little belt packs that would apparently keep that from happening. Is that true and why would that happen if that is true?
CG: The Philadelphia Experiment . . . that was a very irresponsible experiment. From what I saw, they did not do a whole lot of non-human testing before that, and this did not involve using a lot . . . involve using torsion fields. This was heavy electromagnetic fields used in a pulse way (DW: Pulsing.), pulsing way that caused them to change the phase. I can't remember the terminology they used, but they measured what our natural state of matter phase is and they figured out you could change that with, or at least interfere with it, with high electromagnetic fields.
DW: The insider, Jacob, had told me that folks like the Draco are only slightly out of phase with our own reality, and as sensational as this sounds, there were Draco ships landing on the White House lawn every day and entering into an underground facility below the White House where they are having planning meetings and things like this. Did you ever hear of anything like that?
CG: I know that a lot of the high advanced cloaking brings the vessels and the beings slightly out of phase, and the Draco also have all kinds of strange abilities. A lot of people that see – what do they call them - 'shadow people' that scare them and they feel like that they are being fed off energetically by these shadow people. These are these Draco beings astrally projecting into the room (DW: Oh, wow!) to feed off of them. Yeah, these Draco have some extremely high technology.
DW: So the modern gate system you said has perfected the side effects that happened in the Philadelphia Experiment?
CG: Yes. Not only that, they can do . . . they don't have to have . . . always have to have a point-to-point . . . they don't have to have a device here and a device there. It's almost . . . They're able to pull a craft over an object and portal it onto the craft – almost like Star Trek beaming up – and it's still using the same portal-type of technology, but very advanced.
DW: Would that involve maybe some triangulation where you've got three beams that triangulate on a particular coordinate point and then you pull the portal from that point back to the origin?
CG: Right. It's creating a portal out at a further point and portaling that back to your home location. No, but they've perfected portal. The modern portals are extremely advanced.
DW: Can you portal yourself directly into one of these underground facilities as well as the surface of a planet? Is there any interference when you go below the surface of a planet.
CG: No. (DW: Okay.) No, you can portal straight underground to underground of another planet of another star system
DW: So from what I gather that you were saying before, there are probably oodles of ancient builder-race-working portals to be found in these underground caverns.
CG: Portals and all kinds of other crazy technology.
DW: Do you think that if we get the Cosmic Disclosure that our title is about - this Space Program finally revealing the truth to humanity – do you think that people will be able to have access to portal technology soon in that post-Disclosure society?
CG: I don't know how soon. I get asked this question a lot. 'How soon will I get to talk to an ET? How soon will I get to take a tour of the solar system? How soon will I get to portal to Mars? How soon . . . ' You know, this is going to be a process. A lot of the technologies we're going to have access to in the beginning is going to be to enhance our lives down here. (DW: Okay.) Then there's still a lot of mess out there to clean up. So this is not going to be an overnight fix. It's going to take awhile to clean up this big mess that we've created over a long period of time. Now, just the fact that this portal system - this Cosmic Web - exists, lets us know that once we develop to a certain point to where we're not considered a menace to ourselves and to others, that once we're considered a transitional civilization into 4th density and to being more loving and more positive and we're more of one mind and working together, all of these end points that these portals connect to, all of these different beings out there, these are basically long lost cosmic family that we're going to start getting to meet at some point - we're going to start learning about. Surely at some point, they're going to start coming to visit us in these portals and we'll be invited to visit them. And there's probably going to be all kinds of nice foreign exchange student situations. And it's going to be very interesting to see how things develop. I don't have a crystal ball, but . . .
DW: In terms of the technology that you're already familiar with, will we be able to have, eventually, a civilization where everybody could have a working portal in their home where they could make very large jumps without having to go to any type of transfer station or hop station? Or would it be more of something where you might have a local transport that gets you to a hub where larger portal systems are used? Would it be too entangled if everybody has a personal one that can go the distance?
CG: It sounds kind of chaotic, doesn't it? (It does.) I mean, it would be nice to be able to portal to the mall or whatever, but when you have 7 billion people that all of a sudden have a new toy and want to portal all over the galaxy, that . . . I don't know. I don't know if I see that happening immediately. I think that we'll definitely be able to portal to Cancun or the Cayman Islands and that kind of thing in the beginning.
DW: Well, I'm also wondering if there might be . . . To simplify matters, the craft that you're describing, it seems like they would travel so fast that portals might be reserved for things that are off-planet and that being on the planet . . . You might have portal stations like subways or airlines, but that people might end up with their own private craft that they could use to travel wherever they wanted to go so fast that it really doesn't make a difference at that point whether you have a portal or a craft.
CG: Right. And like I stated earlier, many of these ET races they use very large craft and they portal through the Cosmic Web all over our galaxy and to other galaxies. And our galaxy is just a little bitty spot and all of the other galaxies and our local galaxy cluster and then beyond, they've already mapped out with the Hubble Telescope. They've taken pictures back of billions of years ago the energetic connections between all of these galaxies and these now are filaments that form the Cosmic Web. You've heard people say that everything in time and space is connected. That's very much the truth. It's all . . . Everything is connected and it's just . . . I mean just a short little hop skip and a jump away.
DW: We only have a couple of minutes left, but you did make me think of something that I've featured in my books, I think, all the way back to 2001. Two sets of names – one is Battaner and Florido, and the other one is Einasto. And they are researchers primarily out of Spain who mapped out these super clusters of galaxies and showed that they were all in geometric matrices. And they called it the egg-carton universe, because it looks like an egg-carton. But those do appear to be . . . The sacred geometry appears to be a function of vibration. When you vibrate a fluid, you get the same shapes. And these appear to actually be filaments that are connecting these galaxies together just like what you're saying.
CG: Yeah. And what I've been shown by these ET races, our entire universe is a giant torsion field – just like a galaxy and you see a torsion field. That's why some stars are travel this way. Some are traveling that way. And some are zipping around. You know Hubble Telescope has captured some galaxies that seem to be traveling away from us faster than the speed of light. They can't explain it. They are trying to explain it. Our universe, I'm being told, is a giant almost like a bubble, a torsion field. Everything in it is connected via filaments that I'm being told is called the Cosmic Web.
DW: Well think you, Corey. In the next episode, I think this is a really good time for us to get into time, and I want to talk to him about what other insiders have described to me as layered time – the idea of how time can stack on itself, the three dimensionality of time. And we're going to see time and portals interfacing and really try to get more of an understanding of how this new physics applies to this bizarre world of the Secret Space Program.
Here is another article talking about the star gates located on Earth, and others who say they have also seen them, or know of their existence:
Goode is not alone in describing such a numerical address system. Wilcock pointed out that another secret space program whistleblower, Henry Deacon (aka Arthur Neumann), also claims that this is the navigation method used for portal travel. Deacon began publicly disclosing his information regarding portals/stargates back in a 2006 interview on Project Camelot.
Goode said that these ancient portals have been found all over the world, and these are highly sought after by covert teams from the U.S. and other countries. Another whistleblower, Dan Burisch, claims that he was part of a covert team that went into Iraq to find its portal technologies. Indeed, Deacon independently confirmed that a stargate had been discovered in Iraq. There was much circumstantial evidence supporting Burisch’s and Deacon’s claim that the real reason for the U.S. invasion of Iraq was to find ancient portal technologies, as I proposed back in 2003.
Could this be true? Was the war about trying to learn the properties and portal technology of the stargate that was discovered?!
Similarly, Goode says that a series of numerical coordinates based on hyperdimensional mathematics designate different galaxies, solar systems, planets, etc., which becomes the address for a particular portal. This has similarities with the coordinate navigation system depicted in the original Stargate movie (1994) that was then incorporated into the Stargate SG-1 television series.
What a fascinating world we may be about to discover!!!
Over the last many months it has been reported that a large congregation of a multinational group of Battle Ships that have been patrolling the waters of the Gulf of Aden, near the border of Yemen.
It has been reported across mainstream media that all countries involved are protecting their interests from the growing Somali Pirates threat. But conspiracy theorists have been reporting this story as a Red Flag Operation to cover the real purpose of their unprecedented Navel activity in the waters of Aden.
It has been said and also in-depth in this video interview with Aaron McCollum from Project Camelot that a strange magnetic anomaly has been found in the Gulf of Aden. This strange magnetic anomaly is creating what conspiracy theorists believe to be a portal, a kind of Intergalactic Stargate, that only now is slowly being activated and the Governments and the Elites can’t stop it.
There are many strange theories surrounding the 2012 phenomena but now they are escalated to Universal proportions, what’s causing this Stargate to become activated is, well anybody’s guess, but there are many synchronised theories being reported all over the Internet that well is too greater for a mention here.
In Aaron McCollum’s interview he bravely or insanely admits to have been working for Top Secret or Black Projects run by the world’s Elites/Governments. He boldly opens a mega tsunami of Intel and reports to have been working in secret underground facility’s that are also under the sea.
Well, Hollywood has been used in more than one period of need for preparing the public or bringing the public around to a given way of thinking.
It wouldn't shock me to find Stargate the movie/TV show had been similar in broad concept to some reality we think we've seen out there, somewhere, and evidence of here. Who knows how accurate what we have seen is to what actually exists, or how controlled the view may be ..but Hollywood would be the place to break fact by showing fiction first.
It would also be really cool, wouldn't it? Interstellar travel with a god mode cheat code, to put it super simple. lol..... I can go for that.
Now assign me to something like the Pegasus and I'll be quite happy working in my little corner, doing what tech bunnies do.
Well, Hollywood has been used in more than one period of need for preparing the public or bringing the public around to a given way of thinking.
It wouldn't shock me to find Stargate the movie/TV show had been similar in broad concept to some reality we think we've seen out there, somewhere, and evidence of here. Who knows how accurate what we have seen is to what actually exists, or how controlled the view may be ..but Hollywood would be the place to break fact by showing fiction first.
It would also be really cool, wouldn't it? Interstellar travel with a god mode cheat code, to put it super simple. lol..... I can go for that.
Now assign me to something like the Pegasus and I'll be quite happy working in my little corner, doing what tech bunnies do.
@wrabbit2000,
Yes, I have discovered so many older movies recently that depict what is happening, or has already happened. I only recently learned that the cabal has to show what they are going to do that affects the human race through some type of medium. I see they have chosen movies to expose most of it. I have also seen cartoons and comic books with stories years ago telling of events that actually happened years later.
It's astonishing how accurate some of these things turn out to be!!
Well, Hollywood has been used in more than one period of need for preparing the public or bringing the public around to a given way of thinking.
It wouldn't shock me to find Stargate the movie/TV show had been similar in broad concept to some reality we think we've seen out there, somewhere, and evidence of here. Who knows how accurate what we have seen is to what actually exists, or how controlled the view may be ..but Hollywood would be the place to break fact by showing fiction first.
It would also be really cool, wouldn't it? Interstellar travel with a god mode cheat code, to put it super simple. lol..... I can go for that.
Now assign me to something like the Pegasus and I'll be quite happy working in my little corner, doing what tech bunnies do.
@wrabbit2000,
Yes, I have discovered so many older movies recently that depict what is happening, or has already happened. I only recently learned that the cabal has to show what they are going to do that affects the human race through some type of medium. I see they have chosen movies to expose most of it. I have also seen cartoons and comic books with stories years ago telling of events that actually happened years later.
It's astonishing how accurate some of these things turn out to be!!
A follow up post to give an example of things shown in The Simpsons t.v. show: Link
10 Tragic Events 'Predicted' By The Simpsons And Counting. MIND-BLOWING!
Post by Mystic Wanderer on Sept 21, 2015 1:25:23 GMT -6
OMG!!! I know this is a looooonnnnngggg video, but the story Aaron tells is so freakin' fascinating, I hope you all will make time to listen!
If nothing else, at least listen to the last part from mark 2:12:00 forward. He talks about how black ops pharma industry are purposefully messing with the genes to cause autism, and other mental disorders for their own selfish reasons... plus a lot more!
Still, without the time to do that looking? If someone uses Pravda or the National Enquirer? It kinda makes it a 'Bat Boy' level story, by literal definition from the source being used. It really DOES matter that much, at least in my personal opinion for how I value threads or stories.
WAIT!
Are you trying to say that Bat Boy isn't real? That can't be right! If it were right, that would mean I owe Grace 20 bucks. I'm not going to owe Grace 20 bucks. Therefore, Bat Boy is real!
Many, many years ago, I first encountered an entity called "Busty Heart" in the pages of a much-maligned work of journalistic art called "The Weekly World News". The story claimed she was a stripper... erm, I mean "exotic dancer", who was being sued in Chicago for giving an unsuspecting fella whiplash when her boob encounter his head. Perusing the images, I said to myself "Self" I says, "them can't be real!" and dismissed it as a hoax.
Many years later, in the wilds of PA, at Turtle Point, in a bar/strip joint called "Busty's Place" (imaginative, huh?), I encountered the beast in person. Busty made me hold a beer can while she crushed it with one of her boobs. Thy were real enough to leave my fingers numb, wrapped around the remains of a beer can that had suddenly become about 3/4 inches thick, lid to bottom. You can see her do the same thing on YouTube nowadays, but without the poor sap to hold the can for her - liability issues, I guess.