Post by Mystic Wanderer on Jul 19, 2015 13:59:09 GMT -6
Nugget, Thank you for the information. We certainly do need to know if this man is a fraud, but knowing how the higher ups try to discredit people who come out with information they don't want leaked has me asking if this report on him is fake to make people not pay attention to what he is saying?
Maybe it's the Bible prophecies that were pounded into my head growing up, and this scenario that seems to fit those prophecies , that has me a little nervous that it's all too real.
Nugget, Thank you for the information. We certainly do need to know if this man is a fraud, but knowing how the higher ups try to discredit people who come out with information they don't want leaked has me asking if this report on him is fake to make people not pay attention to what he is saying?
Maybe it's the Bible prophecies that were pounded into my head growing up, and this scenario that seems to fit those prophecies , that has me a little nervous that it's all too real.
Sigh... time will tell. I hope it's not true.
Journalists- like our dear Wrabbit- investigated his claims, because they didn't ring true. His 'doctorate' is honorary, and comes from a school that 'sells' degrees. Read the links; the guy seems to have invented a grandious public persona, like so many dooms day profits these days.
Please don't take my word for it; do some open-minded investigative work on your own and decide whether or not you want to believe him.
From a tracking standpoint, it minimizes the tracking to a single point of YOUR choosing, once or twice a month. Cash isn't tracked - yet. Believe it or not, if one uses their card as if it were money, they can be tracked around the world for several years back, and be tied to a known physical location several times a day on average.
Another thing, bearing on your shiny new RFID chip, is that those things can be read, even in your pocket, by any reader within about 30 feet. You can actually be tracked just walking down the street, as you pass store fronts. I have a sealed metal case I keep mine in. It's like a Faraday cage for all of my chipped cards in my pocket. I have NO chipped cards as yet, but I have already gotten in the habit of carrying them in that case in case the time comes that I can't avoid them. Within the case, they can't be interrogated or read, making tracking impossible - and more importantly for some, making interrogation of the card and theft of the chip information impossible, too.
I'm personally skeptical of ANY "insider" or "whistle blower" with super sensationalist news. Why? Very simple. We have seen what it looks like, as a society, when men like that are REAL.
At least as far back as the Pentagon Papers as a major example of REAL and truly meaningful papers moving out of the black world to the light of day. People who say they have inside info, but the inside isn't actively after keeping it that way? Probably don't..in my own experience. That isn't to say people can't figure things out on their own from seeing pieces...but insiders who spill aren't usually left alone to keep at it and make youtubes.
A couple recent ones are in Leavenworth and/or Moscow, for how I think it looks when it gets real.
Well, that would be a silly thing to put in play to ensure his spot on the Hill.
An EMP would put millions upon millions, in the hospital on life saving equipment, in the death throes. Mass pandemonium would ensue with people killing one another - to steal what they have to survive.
Marshall law would be a disaster and wouldn't work in that scenario, as the masses would turn on those in power and blame them for the incoming invasion. "They should have told us sooner. Obama is one of the aliens. The elite in the world are in on it with the aliens."
The common man would turn on those in power, and hunt and kill them all (along with the aliens) - if they try to push out that scenario. In a real survival situation - law and order doesn't exist. They would lose control and it would become a survival of the fittest scenario.
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From a tracking standpoint, it minimizes the tracking to a single point of YOUR choosing, once or twice a month. Cash isn't tracked - yet. Believe it or not, if one uses their card as if it were money, they can be tracked around the world for several years back, and be tied to a known physical location several times a day on average.
Another thing, bearing on your shiny new RFID chip, is that those things can be read, even in your pocket, by any reader within about 30 feet. You can actually be tracked just walking down the street, as you pass store fronts. I have a sealed metal case I keep mine in. It's like a Faraday cage for all of my chipped cards in my pocket. I have NO chipped cards as yet, but I have already gotten in the habit of carrying them in that case in case the time comes that I can't avoid them. Within the case, they can't be interrogated or read, making tracking impossible - and more importantly for some, making interrogation of the card and theft of the chip information impossible, too.
@ninurta, Do we know for sure that cash can't be tracked? (Thinking about the 'threads' they put in bills now....)
Would wrapping a card with an RFID chip in aluminum foil prevent it from being read?
Might be able to track it, but I can't figure out a good reason to do that. It can't be keyed to individuals, because it changes hands at every purchase, and then would be tracking another individual, probably a store manager going to make a deposit. Cards, on the other hand, key their magnetic strips and RFID chips to specific individuals for tracking purposes. That would be the "ID" in "RFID".
The foil wrap might word - I know that NC issued driver's licenses for a 5 month period with RFID trackers in them, until the public uproar made them back off a bit and ditch the chips. Some may have wrapped theirs in foil, but I took that extra bit of effort and nuked mine in a microwave (30 seconds - the sparks were pretty)... but that would be a bad idea for a card that controls your money and purchasing power. Kills it dead, and your bank account along with it until you get another live one.
@ninurta, Do we know for sure that cash can't be tracked? (Thinking about the 'threads' they put in bills now....)
Would wrapping a card with an RFID chip in aluminum foil prevent it from being read?
Might be able to track it, but I can't figure out a good reason to do that. It can't be keyed to individuals, because it changes hands at every purchase, and then would be tracking another individual, probably a store manager going to make a deposit. Cards, on the other hand, key their magnetic strips and RFID chips to specific individuals for tracking purposes. That would be the "ID" in "RFID".
The foil wrap might word - I know that NC issued driver's licenses for a 5 month period with RFID trackers in them, until the public uproar made them back off a bit and ditch the chips. Some may have wrapped theirs in foil, but I took that extra bit of effort and nuked mine in a microwave (30 seconds - the sparks were pretty)... but that would be a bad idea for a card that controls your money and purchasing power. Kills it dead, and your bank account along with it until you get another live one.
I can tell you from personal experience the airport scanner can count cash in your pocket. I had 2K in my pocket when I went through. They told me to take the 2K out of my pocket and took swipes everywhere checking for drugs. They told me I had 2K in my pocket. The guy asked me why I had that much money in my pocket, I told him I don't have credit cards and haven't for years.
That's why I don't travel by air any more - they've gotten ridiculous (what does how much money is in your pocket - or how much drugs, for that matter - have to do with airline security?, and on top of that, I get in trouble in situations like that - I would have told them that if how much money I had was any of their goddamned business, I'd have CC'ed them on the frakkin' memo, and then the trouble would have started in earnest... and in the end, they STILL wouldn't have ever found out why I carry money - because it ain't none of their goddamned business. I'm not spending it on them, and that's all they need to know about MY money.
Still, that was tracking the money itself (specifically the amount, rather than the individual bills), rather than tracking YOU specifically via the money, which is a whole different game of cards from tracking YOU via the plastic in your pocket. There is a world of difference between "dude has $47.50" and "dude spends his money at 'Cathouses R Us' in Lisbon, Portugal, then spends more of it at 'Gator Country Safari' in Miami, then more of it at..." or "Dude walked past a scanner in DC, then a scanner in Alexandria, then a scanner in Manassas, so we need to set the ambush in the next town on that route".
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That's why I don't travel by air any more - they've gotten ridiculous (what does how much money is in your pocket - or how much drugs, for that matter - have to do with airline security?, and on top of that, I get in trouble in situations like that - I would have told them that if how much money I had was any of their goddamned business, I'd have CC'ed them on the frakkin' memo, and then the trouble would have started in earnest... and in the end, they STILL wouldn't have ever found out why I carry money - because it ain't none of their goddamned business. I'm not spending it on them, and that's all they need to know about MY money.
Still, that was tracking the money itself (specifically the amount, rather than the individual bills), rather than tracking YOU specifically via the money, which is a whole different game of cards from tracking YOU via the plastic in your pocket. There is a world of difference between "dude has $47.50" and "dude spends his money at 'Cathouses R Us' in Lisbon, Portugal, then spends more of it at 'Gator Country Safari' in Miami, then more of it at..." or "Dude walked past a scanner in DC, then a scanner in Alexandria, then a scanner in Manassas, so we need to set the ambush in the next town on that route".
I was more stunned than anything, when they knew the amount. As you know, none of this security is about protecting us in as much it is about letting them know when have had enough and a ready to rebel. I remembered the new money has a metallic strip embedded in the paper, and I know because my ex-brother in law worked for years for a security company that installed those metal strips in products setting off alarms when you leave the store. That metal strip vibrates at a sympathetic frequency that in turn triggers those antennas at the door when you exit. So I just figured they were doing the same thing with the money after I thought about it.
All money cleared (read purchased) on a credit card or ATM card goes through the swift clearing system of financial transactions world wide so they know what you spend and where you spend it instantly. That's why in certain circles they know if Putin buys a coke on his mastercard anywhere in the world our government knows about it instantly. When it is explained just like that they don't say if he has a MC or Visa it is said just like I typed it. This is the hidden reason the same circles think the creation of BRICS is about getting out from underneath the one way spying going on by the US. Russia and China are building their own world wide clearing system as we speak. Plus it allows them the ability to exit the western financial system completely. From reserve currency, to foreign exchange, the US will no longer get a cut, or valuable intel. I am sure it is a huge benefit when Kim Jung knucklehead buys military equipment from the Russians and we know about it right away. With this and Japan taking over the military, Saudi's investing 10bn, Obama making nuke deals with Iran everyone seems to be getting away from America in a hurry both financially and militarily. Making me wonder about financial meltdown within the next year. Maybe the end of this year. Who knows but the question are there without any real answers on the street.
It is also why the whole concept of a drug war is ridiculous, they know where and who has the money, when it was transacted, being kept and how often it happens. The idea of financial secrets is long over with. For years we were the only game in town because we had the satellites to bypass line of site transmission for these transactions. Our 3 letter agencies are very sneaky... smart to. I find it comical they like to purport all this monitoring of everything is for our protection. I don't believe anyone capable of building these systems is so inept they let something like the boston bomber get by without anyone knowing. A little death and mayhem is always good for agenda driven politics, cynical maybe, but probably IMO very true.
No doubt. If I can put a flag on your Visa card that, after two or three steps, tells me what is going to happen next, or what is going on in real-time ("there is a 1.00 transaction on Dude's card at a Citgo in Toano, VA, and 4 hours later there are several big ticket purchases in Charlotte, NC on the same card, but Dude lives in Richmond, VA - that card has been stolen"), then there is no reason someone can't put a flag that s watches for 5 gallons of diesel to be bought at a BP, 100 pounds of fertilizer bought on the same card at a Tractor Supply a few miles away, and another purchase for 10 or 20 pounds of nuts and bolts at Lowe's and figure out just what that person is up to... and it goes like that for EVERY purchase logged on a card and tethered to a specific individual. In a short time a profile can be built up to tell you everything you want to know about that individual, beyond what they are actually doing right down to how they think.
No doubt. If I can put a flag on your Visa card that, after two or three steps, tells me what is going to happen next, or what is going on in real-time ("there is a 1.00 transaction on Dude's card at a Citgo in Toano, VA, and 4 hours later there are several big ticket purchases in Charlotte, NC on the same card, but Dude lives in Richmond, VA - that card has been stolen"), then there is no reason someone can't put a flag that s watches for 5 gallons of diesel to be bought at a BP, 100 pounds of fertilizer bought on the same card at a Tractor Supply a few miles away, and another purchase for 10 or 20 pounds of nuts and bolts at Lowe's and figure out just what that person is up to... and it goes like that for EVERY purchase logged on a card and tethered to a specific individual. In a short time a profile can be built up to tell you everything you want to know about that individual, beyond what they are actually doing right down to how they think.
Welcome to the digital age of finance...
I can't say to what depth they have in the transaction itself, that would require part numbers for tractor supply at the receipt level. They could very well have that. When I was an engineer for a company that built steam cleaning equipment we had contracts with the military to provide machines to clean tanks. I was in charge of the domestic side and the guy who sat next to me did military. But every year someone came by and inventoried the capabilities of our factory and it's machinery in case of war since we did military contracts. If you have ever bid a military contract or seen one it's no wonder they have 800 dollar toilet seats. So they might know the information at that level, but it sure wouldn't be hard considering the computing power they have.
But you are right it wouldn't really be a problem. BTW everybody here calls that citgo Tony the Tiger. Right there 60 comes to a 3 way split.
Yeah, transactions are tracked that finely - "for inventory purposes". next time you get a reciept, look at it and you can tell just what you bought. Now, for cash transactions, that data just goes into the aether, and is only run up to corporate for inventory and re-order purposes. When it's on a card, someone, somewhere, will have access to that database for who knows what purposes, and it's linked to your card if you use plastic.
I seem to recall breaking down one dark night in the 80's near that Citgo, which is how I remembered it. I had no idea it was still in operation!
Yeah, transactions are tracked that finely - "for inventory purposes". next time you get a reciept, look at it and you can tell just what you bought. Now, for cash transactions, that data just goes into the aether, and is only run up to corporate for inventory and re-order purposes. When it's on a card, someone, somewhere, will have access to that database for who knows what purposes, and it's linked to your card if you use plastic.
I seem to recall breaking down one dark night in the 80's near that Citgo, which is how I remembered it. I had no idea it was still in operation!
I think it's a Citgo there in Toano but it still has the tiger standing on it's hind legs. I ride one of the motorcycles by there but have never gotten gas. I live at the other end just outside of Toano with a Williamsburg mailing address but not proper Williamsburg by the village. Most of our travels are at the opposite direction as you know there isn't much in Toano.
I always forget about the database in the back end accessible by 3 letter folks anytime they want. One of the things our illustrious government did with financial databases did that a previous HUD under secretary Catherine Austin Fitts found out was HUD databases were built and maintain and under total control by private contractors and therefore don't answer to her only, someone she could never find. Which as you know completely eliminates FOIA request by citizens of the republic.
I have a friend named Franklin Horton, whom I've known for years - he was there when I got thrown out of a college - who has just released a novel with the basic scenario eerily similar to that premise - except it's ISIS cells who, through a series of coordinated attacks send us back to the 18th century infrastructure-wise.
His book is The Borrowed World, available at Amazon.
@ninurta, that book actually hit a little too close to home, being as we stay on the road 9-10 months out of the year
Very well written, wasn't too far out there, he kept it realistic IMO
He did bring up some very real issues that could occur in a SHTF scenario, like the govt. taking over gas stations and cutting supply off to regular folks, even if we are left stranded on the interstate to fend for ourselves People panicking as a result and chaos ensues, people die
Also I can see some of the smaller towns closing off the roads to 'out of towners' In fact, several towns that we often stop at came to mind along I-10/I-12 in Louisiana
The only complaint I have about the book..................it's to be continued!!!!! Got so into the book that I didn't even pay attention to how much was left (Kindle) It just stopped after they fought their way to Crawfish then *bam*, end of story
Now I have to wait for book 2 to come out so I can see if they made it home (sigh)
In the meantime, am re-reading it again
Good book for anyone interested in a very possible SHTF scenario Mainly written with the thought of "what if" it happened while being hundreds of miles away from home
And yes, we are stupid for showing on TV our country's weakness' ......which we did see something similar a couple of years ago on one of those channels All it takes is that 'one' person to see it and get an idea
Being as we don't have a "home" per say, not sure where we would go or what we would do I did ask my husband if he was offered to go to a FEMA shelter would he go, and he said 'HELL NO!'. LOL
Guess we would be labeled "paranoid" too, in some respect
We may not have the access to prep being as our 'house' is a 5th wheel But we are "aware" and always on alert, especially due to our work