No.Thought I avoided that by not going there from HH. Sigh.
Let me see if I can copy the link the old fashioned way . . .
Sigh . . . Some folks . . . have far too thin a skin without being skinwalkers.
OK. I just tested this link from my Word file where I typed it in character by character and it worked (i.e.--didn't go to the hemorrhoid page that the juveniles at TOS seem to get such a kick out of):
NOPE STILL DOESN'T WORK HERE.
OK WRABBIT . . . HOW WOULD THEY DO THAT?
The link worked right in my Word file . . . but not at HH. That would take some bit of cleverness, wouldn't it?
Or is it that WHEN THE LINK IS CLICKED WHILE ON HH, THEN THE SERVER THERE THROWS UP THE MD page. Ahhhh. That would explain it.
OK.
You can look up the title at TOS. or copy the link into a Word file and ctrl+click on it there in the Word file.
Clicking on it here will get you the sore rear page.
Which . . . evidently . . . is what HH is to those with thin skins at TOS?
Awwwwww bess em lil ol hearts. Sheesh . . . Some people make it a life time hobby to act like 2 year olds.
GuoHua, you're welcome to edit this, if it's too much. Sigh.
Whenever I've encountered such . . . spiritual beings . . . and related co-horts, I've tended to tell them where to go in the Name, Blood and authority of Jesus The Christ.
I do know of Dineh who have sacrificed their own children cruelly in order to gain power as medicine men etc.
And, I believe that case on that thread or from another source, I forget where I came across it . . . where there were 17 or so older teens chosen for a great initiation ceremony to intensify such "powers" . . . IIRC, 2 of the 17 came back alive. The rest were sacrificed--yes--quite literally.
And, my sources in the tribe assure me that such goings on are quite true and accurate.
I just copied the link text and got where you intended to escape the hilarious redirect. That's hilarious. As for the link itself and checking the guy's page, he seems to be focused on what would fall under the classification of "UFO activity". UFO activity and skinwalker activity are not pseudonymous. The only thing skinwalkerish in what goes on on that ranch is the "bullet proof" wolves. Period. All the other phenomena is not associated with skinwalker sightings.
I don't think you've considered all the evidence. Perhaps you have. I think more than 'bullet proof' wolves has gone on there.
Skinwalker Ranch and the reference to that "other site" actually gives me a moment to clarify something that occurred on that other site. Col. Alexander in his AMA asked that I contact him offline. I said that I would in a few days. After much consideration, I never did and for what I felt were very good reasons. One of those reasons was the penchant for the folks at the so-called Skinwalker Ranch to not actually go to the source of the phenomena--the Navajo themselves--or to distinguish between the two phenomena.
I was not quite comfortable with Alexander's whole presentation of himself. I think it may be wise to steer clear, too.
In terms of going to the source--the Dineh themselves--I've grown up with them and am in touch with many currently. We've discussed such things off and on. Some won't touch the topic any way, shape or form. Some will.
The Ute and Dine have been at war for centuries and contested zones are actually some of the primary hotspots for skinwalker activity (ie. Navajo-Ute border and the Hopi-Navajo border for example). Ranches in these zones tend to be targets for activity as a factor of "jealousy". Skinwalker Ranch is not unique for visitation by skinwalkers in the slightest and interestingly enough, Dawes Act allotments might be the commonality between all the reports from ranchers in those areas. Land ownership was absolutely controversial as heck at the time and still is in many ways. Historically, the Navajo have had their own practices of "wealth re-distribution" and that included attacks on ranches. The above is why "Skinwalker Ranch" probably has had a few relics from the past on their property and that is what a skinwalker is--a relic from a hunting/gathering past.
That's an interesting conjecture.
I believe differently.
While it may be a contributive factor that spiritual entities have MORE of a "spiritually legal" authority to trouble areas which have included a lot of jealousy and conflict . . . I don't think that such areas are the only 'spiritually legal' doorways that such entities walk through.
Animal emulation and shamanism is found within Navajo mythology to this day. Coyote is constantly gambling for skins and described as tucking them around him as if they are a piece of clothing. Coyote's wife dons a bear skin to seek revenge on those she felt responsible for the purported murder of Coyote--her own brothers. Very skinwalkerish tale even down to the murder of one's own kin as a rite of initiation. There's a story of a hunter who comes up with the idea of mimicking a deer to become a better hunter and then gets assisted by one of the Yei'bei'chii in perfecting the art of animal mimicry.
You seem to ascribe much, most, all of such goings on to mythology. Evidently you don't believe that much of such goings on has any tangible reality to it in our dimension . . . particularly in ways that result in serious and horrific loss of life of innocent children.
If skinwalkers had the abilities attributed to them as per the activity on Skinwalker Ranch, well, then the Navajo wouldn't have lost the war against the US. Their expulsion from the tribe came after the surrender.
I think that's a VERY FLAWED assumption/conjecture.
1. To conclude that, I'd think that you'd HAVE TO KNOW ABSOLUTELY RELIABLY 100% OF THE SCRIPT, PARAMETERS, MANDATE, GOALS, SCHEMES, AUTHORITIES, BOUNDARIES ETC. of such skinwalkers.
2. You'd have to have KNOWN that the skinwalkers COULD have, were AUTHORIZED {by higher spiritual authority} to have used their powers in ways to prevent the long walk etc. but chose not to. I find that assumption far too inconsistent with reality as I construe it.
3. You'd have to have KNOWN that the skinwalkers' boundaries and mandates included taking up for and protecting the tribe generally. I know of NO such evidence. Such entities persistently act in ways that are self-seeking and rather hostile to almost everyone outside those few or one that they are bound to. And even the ones they are bound to often do not fare well from the treatment of the skinwalkers. And actually, IIRC, most are more free-lance agents . . . opportunistic . . . vs 'bound' to any particular person. But I could be wrong about that.
I do think that there are parallels in other cultures . . . wherein evil forces and entities are in collaboration with various humans in our dimension.
Thanks for clarifying and clearing up my misunderstandings.
RE CAPS . . . they are, for me, merely a way of emphasis in a medium lacking voice tones, eyebrow raises, facial expressions, etc. You are welcome to ignore my CAPS, as you wish.
I'm sure you can do quite fine in life without any information I embed in CAPS.
On the other hand, I try not to waste them indiscriminately.
Personally, I think the net convention about CAPS is a bit silly. My screen is 4' from my eyes and CAPS are a LOT easier for me to read with my aging eyes.
In terms of skinwalkers . . . I believe that there are some convincing cases where skinwalkers were associated with UFO phenomena.
Given that they are all working for the same Dark Lord . . . that shouldn't be too surprising.
In terms of the ultimate spiritual authority . . . imho, there's only One. NOTHING happens unless He at least allows it. And He has definite boundaries that the enemy's troops are not allowed to cross without a human opening a spiritually legal door thereto.
Thanks for the exchanges and your interesting perspective.
Post by bonhommearmonica on Nov 30, 2014 23:07:02 GMT -6
May I add a point of perspective
Only on one point
I dont think the bad medicine was used up till a certain point They held back to long
and only became used when the US Army actually hit the Skinwalkers so to speak And it was only because they hit them- no coordination IMHO not based on anything but my observations
Keep in mind a good series of books
The ones by carlos castenada
The world map/view of the medicine men are completely different
They would have sooner summon Nazi's from the future for help
My understanding of the majics as I call them (to them its like walking and breathing) Is that the whole basis is your mental state
The skinwalkers are perversions
I am enjoying this dialogue
The falling through the cracks I was think some local legends
I made a whole group of NA's look at me when two white men they worked for were discussing an old murder (1901)
I said it was bad medicine I could see the house and my mind populated the details
The locked doors from the inside The items left on the porch
I ended up talking to the locals for an hour or so I explain quietly I was Pagan not christian
All of a sudden I am not red headed white boy I am an outsider like them
The boss said he was surprised as crap because they never talk to him that way. He just now got their willingness to talk.. I am there less then twenty minutes and they talk with me like we are old freinds
When you described the DOG op I saw the damn thin the weird walk
flies and bugs but not flies and bugs
I have to be careful most the time when I read things
Post by whitealice on Nov 30, 2014 23:18:22 GMT -6
Airen, if you must know, I cannot read all caps. I have spent the last two years having problems with my vision since a bad fall that sent my occipital lobe into overdrive.
Be my guest to take a mocking tone but when I say my brain shuts down when I see all caps, I meant it.
Airen, if you must know, I cannot read all caps. I have spent the last two years having problems with my vision since a bad fall that sent my occipital lobe into overdrive.
Be my guest to take a mocking tone but when I say my brain shuts down when I see all caps, I meant it.
THANKS MUCH FOR YOUR CANDOR.
Wasn't aware that I had taken a mocking tone at all.
Your experience with injury and CAPS is 100% unique in all my 68 years. Sorry you have that struggle.
I'm curious about more details of what you described but maybe you've described it as much as possible.
I'm also curious if this effect came on immediately after your fall or if it was gradual.
When I said silly, I was speaking generically over the whole of my net experience--which had included NO ONE like you and your physiological experience. Sorry.